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14 minutes ago, Sonictrainer said:
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I have been wondering if:

A.) After Sonic gets infected, Tails isn't able to stop Sonic from becoming metal but is able to have Sonic keep his free will.

B.) After Sonic gets infected, he continues to help people until he runs out of time and eventually becomes Eggman's slave for a time

C.) In order to cure Sonic, they have to shrink down and enter his body to reprogram the virus and make a vaccine

I've also been wondering if the MV victims will get enhanced powers and abilities due to being robots.

 

Who said that IDW's version of Forces happens the same way as the game?

It has to, because the story ( or lack their of is really bad ) or its a different story. The story is bad in a particular way, and trying to change it to " Not bad " changes it to something different.

You make the characters competent? Infinite being a threat is illogical

You give infinite a new power set? Then that's just a different character

You remove infinite? Then its just eggman and that's baby shit for most of the entire cast

You try to explain parts of it? You have now given more detail than the actual story itself and effectively transformed the narrative into a different thing that might as well not be forces.

The story is bad in a way where no one does nothing untill the story decides its time for them to do a thing. Infinite and eggman's threatening is overstated, and only exists because nothing happens and no one does anything for 6 months.

With a competent cast, forces entire premise is unbelievable. Heck issues 9,10 and 11 of this book prove that.  And trying to change details about , just makes it another story entirely.

Edit: One last thing , ya'll keep saying " well it could be different " until the narrative states that it was different that's the only assumption we can make, that its the same story we experienced, untill we are given proof that its different

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Here's a sample pic of Tangle happy

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Anyway...

58 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

It has to, because the story ( or lack their of is really bad ) or its a different story.

I mean, there's a reason that in the beginning of the jump from Archie to IDW, an emphasis was placed on the fact that this universe is "kind of, sort of" similar to the games.

1 hour ago, Shadowlax said:

You make the characters competent? Infinite being a threat is illogical

A character that can create an army of duplicates of other characters to fight for him and alternate reality is still a threat.

Saying that Infinite is not a threat is almost like saying Eggman is not a threat, since he helped to create Infinite.

1 hour ago, Shadowlax said:

You try to explain parts of it? You have now given more detail than the actual story itself and effectively transformed the narrative into a different thing that might as well not be forces.

...why is this bad again?

1 hour ago, Shadowlax said:

The story is bad in a way where no one does nothing untill the story decides its time for them to do a thing. Infinite and eggman's threatening is overstated, and only exists because nothing happens and no one does anything for 6 months.

The fact that Eggman still needed 6 months despite Infinite's resume to take over already tells me that the Resistance weren't doing "nothing".

1 hour ago, Shadowlax said:

Edit: One last thing , ya'll keep saying " well it could be different " until the narrative states that it was different that's the only assumption we can make, that its the same story we experienced, untill we are given proof that its different

What evidence says this universe happens the same as in the game universe?

Especially when in this universe, a character in a Super State wasn't invincible and could be damaged by someone not in a Super State. This is unheard of in Archie and the Game Universe.

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I'm on the side that doesn't see any harm in simply mentioning the existance of battles from the war that happened. I don't really consider it a huge affront to just have stuff like that mentioned in a passing conversation. It's a little blurb that exisits to give minor context to the scene and set the mood. I'm not the sort that hangs onto every passing comment as some sort of anker to deep rooted lore that we're missing out on.

If there was something more there that we needed to know, we'd either get shown more or it'd be expounded upon. However, I feel it'd be a bit too restrictive of me to say that they're not allowed to just mention any random thing unless they always showed it to me. Perhaps if it actually felt like something that was being teased or dangled like a carrot and not just an expected passing comment about the fact that they did battle while Sonic was gone, I'd see the point in being upset but, as is, its just harmless flavor text.

Had I not been on here, I wouldn't have expected it to be something that got this much attention. 

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In terms of "when will the comic stop referring to Forces?", I expect that when the next mainline game in the series is announced, we'll see a gradual pivot in the direction of whatever that's about.

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1 hour ago, Sonictrainer said:

Especially when in this universe, a character in a Super State wasn't invincible and could be damaged by someone not in a Super State. This is unheard of in Archie and the Game Universe.

Didn't something like that happen in Sonic 3?

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6 hours ago, Sonictrainer said:
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I have been wondering if:

 

B.) After Sonic gets infected, he continues to help people until he runs out of time and eventually becomes Eggman's slave for a time

 

 

Wow, that could be somber way of ending an issue.

6 hours ago, Sonictrainer said:

 

Metal Sonic has been doing a good job of filling in the Super Badnik quota for now.

 

Eh.

6 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

It has to, because the story ( or lack their of is really bad ) or its a different story. The story is bad in a particular way, and trying to change it to " Not bad " changes it to something different.

You make the characters competent? Infinite being a threat is illogical

You give infinite a new power set? Then that's just a different character

You remove infinite? Then its just eggman and that's baby shit for most of the entire cast

You try to explain parts of it? You have now given more detail than the actual story itself and effectively transformed the narrative into a different thing that might as well not be forces.

The story is bad in a way where no one does nothing untill the story decides its time for them to do a thing. Infinite and eggman's threatening is overstated, and only exists because nothing happens and no one does anything for 6 months.

With a competent cast, forces entire premise is unbelievable. Heck issues 9,10 and 11 of this book prove that.  And trying to change details about , just makes it another story entirely.

Edit: One last thing , ya'll keep saying " well it could be different " until the narrative states that it was different that's the only assumption we can make, that its the same story we experienced, untill we are given proof that its different

The comic aren't based on the games--they take inspiration from them. Much like the Shattered World Crisis, it's using Forces as a backdrop to kickoff the comic, but takes a good number of liberties regarding all but the most important canon stuff. 

This is why there are Egg Hammers, Tangle, the Egg Fleet and an E-series hanging around, why little to none of the Forces designs for Badniks are being used, why Neo Metal Sonic was totally his own thing instead of just a pointless clone, and why Amy keeps getting the credit for the Resistance.

6 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

 

You give infinite a new power set? Then that's just a different character

 

Reason 2 or 3 why Infinite wasn't likely to come back?

 

 

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17 hours ago, Fire-N-Space said:

I always wanted to see a team up of Amy & Sonic but I didn't think the comics would make it so uninteresting to watch, Amy feels so generic here no jokes, flirting or silliness just loads of back story.

Sonic is so carefree about his friends/allirs he assumes that they think like Tails and wants nothing but action and thrillseeking adventures in super fast motion. 

Amy in this comic flirting with Sonic seems out of character, she and Sonic have this playful boy doesn't get girl relationship but they talk like their married.

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4 hours ago, FFWF said:

In terms of "when will the comic stop referring to Forces?", I expect that when the next mainline game in the series is announced, we'll see a gradual pivot in the direction of whatever that's about.

Oof, what a time that'll be in itself.

 

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You know something, I don't see how Sonic and Amy could get along and team up as easily with each other. Sonic himself is to indirect emotionally to Amy, looking at the bigger picture and an excuse to act on the call of thrillseeking adventure, while Amy holds her own focus at getting invested directly with learning about how things happen while she helps save people. It's really problematic, Sonic is barely interested in Amy personally while hes using her as a medium to do anything heroic but not friend like Tails, more like a partner.

Amy is getting along with Sonic because she's loyal and obsessed with him. Wish she actually had the ability to get Sonic to earn her respect like Sally instead of viewing her as another buddy to fight bad guys with.

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5 minutes ago, Sonictrainer said:
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How do you think Sonic will end up INFECTED?

Something tells me that he, along with Rough & Tumble, will get splashed with the MV at some point.

 

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I'm thinking that Rough and Tumble will turn out to have been intentionally infected by Eggman when he sent them after Sonic and Amy. Sonic grabbing one by the scruff after their defeat will lead to him being infected.

 

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25 minutes ago, Ernest the Panda said:

I’ve recently taken to reading Starline with Vincent Corazza’s voice.

Yay or nay?

Weirdly I hear Derek Stephen Prince. Tangle is Linda Cardellini and I don't really have a go to voice for Whisper, Rough and Tumble though.

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2 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Weirdly I hear Derek Stephen Prince. Tangle is Linda Cardellini and I don't really have a go to voice for Whisper, Rough and Tumble though.

I imagine Whisper as sounding like Marshadow from the 20th Pokemon movie. lol

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39 minutes ago, Ernest the Panda said:

I’ve recently taken to reading Starline with Vincent Corazza’s voice.

Yay or nay?

 

10 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Weirdly I hear Derek Stephen Prince. Tangle is Linda Cardellini and I don't really have a go to voice for Whisper, Rough and Tumble though.

 

8 minutes ago, Ernest the Panda said:

I imagine Whisper as sounding like Marshadow from the 20th Pokemon movie. lol

Admittedly, I don't really have voice actors in mind for the IDW originals for the most part--just general voices.

27 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

Ian is doing sonic x amy much better than any past incarnation.

Why Sonic X?

5 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Because for some reason, he forgot that scaling is a thing even among stuff like that.

Apparently the villains' competency can't rise to counter the heroes' competence.

Even though that's the point of Infinite?

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The point of Infinite is that he threw a tantrum and Eggman gave him an upgrade for it.

Usually, even for characters like that...their confidence usually shows that they have an air of competency even if the story fails to show it.

Then ideally as the Heroes get closer to victory this competency would shatter and lead to the villainous breakdown.

Maybe it's mostly because the heroes aren't used to his powers, but he'd still be some type of threat at first.

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14 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

 

 

Admittedly, I don't really have voice actors in mind for the IDW originals for the most part--just general voices.

Why Sonic X?

Even though that's the point of Infinite?

I meant that x to represent sonic and amy. Not sonic x. Shudders

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