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Good even though I wanted to see Tails do more. I'm a fanboy sue me XP. I wanted more of my fluff boi and didn't get enough to satisfy. Now got to wait who knows how long til he comes back. (Don't seriously take this as a big negative. This issue is one of the best ones for me when I put aside my fanboyism XP)

As an issue I like it because it feels different to the previous ones, even if the ending is basically the same as the others. The rest felt new. Eggman especially was the highlight with just how much of a sadistic twisted person he is. Damn he really goes there. I was like....woooooow man.....you went there. Starline remains the worlds biggest kiss ass there is XD. I may not be surprised if we get a panel of just that. Or for some reason Orbot and Cubot going into an ass kissing contest with Starline for who can praise Eggman more....I dunno.

The stuff we did get with the heroes is alright. Sonic running out though may or may not be the right thing to do. Unless Tails got all he needed from Sonic. I do like this Sonic though. Goes without saying this iteration is what saves me from the video game one that I currently despise. Tangle is Tangle. She's happy to be there...and that's about it. She honestly had really no business being here other than look at the new character. But to be more positive I liked the gag she has with Sonic at the end.

But then we end off with Sonic leaving the past friends to join with another group of friends cliche continuing. I'm not sure if I'm alone on this, but am I the only one who feels this kind of formula just makes everyone but Sonic feel kinda like just cheap action figures to look at? It practically makes it so you can't really do that much with anyone outside of Sonic, because they have to leave after the issue is done. I would feel like having 2-4 part things going on would allow a wider scope of focus rather than just a single part with a person or pair. It's practically mad libs. Just have character name and thing they do blanked out along with relations.

"Sonic meets up with "_____" who is his "_____". Sonic and "_____" deal with (Though in this case discuss) something Eggman related. "Sonic leaves "______" behind in order to end up meeting with "______" in the next issue."

Despite that negativity I still praise this issue for the most part. I still can't help but feel the formula cheapens the other characters into objects/action figures rather than people. I kinda feel like their fan appeasing eye candy more than characters.

 

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I actually quite liked this issue somewhat. It was relatively low action/event, but that's just the sort of start a story like this kinda needs.

I appreciated:

  • Tails not being that comfortable about Tangle and thinking Zombots are silly
  • Starline being won back over via witnessing his "hero's" work firsthand 
  • Super Mario Galaxy 2 reference, plus the ship flying by sneezing
  • Poor Scruffy
  • The Sonic X and/or Pontac&Graff style puns and phrases in general

 

4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

What do you think about the Secret Rings flashback? It's a storybook game set in another dimension, not in Sonic's continuity, and in these games, it's not the same Sonic that is the main character as seen when Sonic is revealed to be King Arthur. It's confusing.

It takes place in a book Sonic had lying around, didn't it? 

Just because it's self-contained doesn't mean it's not canon.

Plus, it's referenced in Generations and Runners.

 

4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

In the Sonic & The Black Knight he is revealed to be King Arthur. But then he goes back to his reality. It means King Arthur left that reality, or a copy of Sonic is made? (just like a copy of Sonic is made after the Generations split).

4 hours ago, Ernest the Panda said:

He could’ve just left the Arthurian realm without a king.

He definitely returns home at the end because we hear him trying to explain to real-world Amy why he missed their date after the credits.

Well this raises a question: What actually happened to King Arthur?

4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

And it's not a different dimension like Blaze's dimension. It's a different reality. I'm not a fan of including them in the IDW canon.

I'm not even a fan of including Sonic Unleashed because of the human world.

You're not a fan of just about anything after the Dreamcast trio.

4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

Because there's not another Tails or another Sonic in Blaze's dimension.

In the storybook realities there are other Tails, other Sonic, and even other Blaze and Silver and Jet.

Yes there is--Blaze and Marine.

And in the context of the storybooks, the implication that's just how the characters appear to Sonic himself.

4 hours ago, Ernest the Panda said:

Regardless, the storybook worlds being another “reality” doesn’t change the fact Sonic went into those realities and had those experiences within them.

Exactly.

3 hours ago, Candescence said:

Yeah, it seems weirdly puzzling logic to try and push the Storybook games out of continuity with. I for one enjoyed the reference, and I do open it leaves the door open for additional opportunities, such as, well, revisiting the Storybook worlds.

I would actually be down for Sonic seeking non-scientific solutions to the problem of the Zombot plague if Tails can't cure it in time, such as using the World Rings to empower a wish by Shahra or using the power of Excalibur's scabbard to purge the infection, and perhaps using the World Rings/Excalibur to combat Eggman with the Chaos Emeralds if needed. (And yes, Exalibur's scabbard is depicted as a corrupting influence in Black Knight, but that aspect is honestly out of step with the Arthurian mythos and the vast majority of depictions of the scabbard in general, and the titular Black Knight isn't the 'real' King Arthur anyway, so it's probably that said corruption is really just misuse of its power driven through temptation by unworthy individuals, since Excalibur and its scabbard was meant to be owned by the true Once and Future King, aka Sonic.)

This series was born on the fable side and just got weirder as they developed it.

Personally, while I do sorta think the storybook stuff can probably stay confined, I have absolutely no problem.

2 hours ago, Kazhnuz said:

It's not that confusing and it's the same Sonic.

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Basically, the revelation is quite simple : the "King Arthur" of the game was a fake to begin with. The "King Arthur" as we know it is the creation of Merlin. Sonic is revealed to be King Arthur because he is the one who got Caliburn/Excalibur, making him having met the condition to be King Arthur.

 

Oh yeah, that does sound about right.

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9 hours ago, Kazhnuz said:

It begin.

I really liked this issue.

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I like this formula of "Eggman do a thing, Sonic try to do a thing", and that for the moment they don't encounter each other. (I'm a bit iffy with Sonic actually mentioning that formula but… that's a good thing to see Sonic being actually concerned by what's going on, and trying to think through the situation instead of just dashing forward. The information isn't that Sonic and Eggman didn't enountered each-other yet, but that Sonic is concerned by that.). I think that taking a good chunk of the story time to show the zombotification of Windmill Village was a good idea. With this arc, we actively see the threat and how it seems irremediable.

A bit sad that that neither Tails nor Tangle have been infected, but I suppose that it'll happens later, a "friend infection".

 

I also liked how Eggman is nearly turning "welp when this world is over, I'll go conquer others", it remind me a bit of Dark Enerjak and Robo-Robotnik, and I like that. He have a (seemingly) failure-safe project, and is already prepared to go conquering other worlds even though he hasn't finished this world yet. Eggman's ego at his finest.

I'm pretty interested in how they'll make Sonic win the day against such odds, though.

 

Yeah, admittedly, I kinda hoping the latter might end up with that for a second.

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11 minutes ago, Marco9966 said:

Indeed.

Although you aren’t truly a hater of anything until Colors, right?

 

And also, I suspect the zombots will eventually attack the human world.

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1 minute ago, Miragnarok said:

Although you aren’t truly a hater of anything until Colors, right?

 

And also, I suspect the zombots will eventually attack the human world.

I'd have proffered the storybook games to have completely different characters, like Merlina, instead of Tails and Knuckles.

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1 hour ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

So...issue 16. Yeah...

...does anyone here read IDW Tranformers 2019, the "Bold" reboot? It's absolutely terrible and gave prepared me to be a little lenient on Sonic.

 

I haven't read it but from what I've heard isn't it like a super slow paced murder story where none of the Transformers so far have any real personalities? 

That's the impression I'm getting anyway.

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2 hours ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

 

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1/3 is Eggman explaining his base... why ? Would it really break our suspension of disbelief to just show us this Faceship with no explanation?  He build interplanetary amusement park for Chaos sake, this not-Ark isn't that weird.

 

Spoiler

I'm guessing it's because Sonic or whoever may infiltrate the ship at some point.

 

51 minutes ago, Marco9966 said:

I'd have proffered the storybook games to have completely different characters, like Merlina, instead of Tails and Knuckles.

 

2 hours ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

IDK, I kinda though the issue will be about Sonic and Amy dealing with his infection, like Archie did with Werehog, Tension, emotions, not instant teleportation t Tails Lab.

Huh. That's a good point.

 

2 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

Starline remains the worlds biggest kiss ass there is XD. I may not be surprised if we get a panel of just that. Or for some reason Orbot and Cubot going into an ass kissing contest with Starline for who can praise Eggman more....I dunno.

 

Eh, maybe Cubot. Orbot seems more likely to lowkey backhand him.

Though maybe it'd become a case of Starlight completely agreeing, with reality flying right over his head.

2 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

 

The stuff we did get with the heroes is alright. Sonic running out though may or may not be the right thing to do. Unless Tails got all he needed from Sonic. I do like this Sonic though.

Might? It obviously wasn't!

2 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

Tangle is Tangle. She's happy to be there...and that's about it. She honestly had really no business being here other than look at the new character. But to be more positive I liked the gag she has with Sonic at the end.

 

Where've you been?

But that saved it.

2 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

 

But then we end off with Sonic leaving the past friends to join with another group of friends cliche continuing. I'm not sure if I'm alone on this, but am I the only one who feels this kind of formula just makes everyone but Sonic feel kinda like just cheap action figures to look at? It practically makes it so you can't really do that much with anyone outside of Sonic, because they have to leave after the issue is done. I would feel like having 2-4 part things going on would allow a wider scope of focus rather than just a single part with a person or pair. It's practically mad libs. Just have character name and thing they do blanked out along with relations.

"Sonic meets up with "_____" who is his "_____". Sonic and "_____" deal with (Though in this case discuss) something Eggman related. "Sonic leaves "______" behind in order to end up meeting with "______" in the next issue."

 

You mean it isn't?

1 hour ago, Marco9966 said:

I'd have proffered the storybook games to have completely different characters, like Merlina, instead of Tails and Knuckles.

I'm not sure what actually originated it, but it's clearly a Wizard of Oz thing.

Although it would be cool if it turned out there actually is a Shahra/Merlina basis in Sonic's World.

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SAN DIEGO, CA (May 8, 2019) – IDW Publishing is humbled to announce that three of its most recent Sonic The Hedgehog comic books – issues #14 and #15 from the ongoing monthly series, as well as Sonic The Hedgehog Annual 2019 – have completely sold out at the distributor level.

Damn. This is pretty impressive from where I'm standing. 

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57 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

I haven't read it but from what I've heard isn't it like a super slow paced murder story where none of the Transformers so far have any real personalities? 

That's the impression I'm getting anyway.

Murder story that has no leads, developments, suspects and even hardcore fans would know very little about murdered person

Longest actions scene can be described as rugby talking a guy and then talking and letting him go.

All robots have less personality than piece of plastic they were based of. Toys at least had a little blurb in the back.

And artowork is done by the blandest person in the universe, who associates face expressions with myths and fairy tales.

It's a book about talking. Talking about social issues that aren't explained, characters that aren't on the screen and other subject that it's impossible to get invested.

 

It's like a Sonic book, where Tails worries that overflow of golden rings hurts economy, while Shadow works on restructuring GUN bureaucracy department.

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36 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

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The take away will always be sad and disheartening. Nothing will ever be truly okay until this is fixed

Poor Flicky.

31 minutes ago, Tracker_TD said:

Damn. This is pretty impressive from where I'm standing. 

Hey yeah, now that I think about it, Knuckles and Amy really weren't in that book!

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Eggman literally did the most fucked up thing with the first batch of that virus.

I hope, I hope to goodness there is a moment where to rouge and sonic, shadow is like " What the fuck did I say "

Also  once this is over... i'm interested in how they up the anti? This is kinda mega fucked up, not a lot of places you can go from here escalation wise

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1 hour ago, Tracker_TD said:

Damn. This is pretty impressive from where I'm standing. 

Are there still people claiming the book is failing because...this looks like opposite of that to me.

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Shadowlax is literally salivating Shadow punching Sonic :V

 

 

But yea, Eggman sure as fuck didn't waste time. I'm glad Ian fully embraces that he's a terrible person that does really terrible things. And I guess that was the payoff to the Mr. Tinkerer sub plot. I'm curious on what's his next move though, or is he just gonna sit on his ass until the Heroes go on the offensive.

Sonic's side is mostly fluff, but I did like how he's trying to play off that he's obviously terrified of this virus and accidentally infecting one of his friends. Hope there's more of that.

 

Kudos to this issue finally breaking the formulaic nature, if only for a brief period.

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2 hours ago, StaticMania said:

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The take away will always be sad and disheartening. Nothing will ever be truly okay until this is fixed

Nah I want to see the entire land become infected. I want sonic pushed to the edge trying to save everyone.

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44 minutes ago, Kuzu the Boloedge said:

Shadowlax is literally salivating Shadow punching Sonic :V

WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH, I drooled a little bit shut up.

 

Seriously though I don't even want shadow to punch sonic, I just want shadow to be disappointed in him and sonic genuinely feels bad and has to grow. Sonic getting actual... growth as a character is interesting potential.

Bonus and would kinda redeem issue 6 and would give ian 4d chess status: If it was revealed shadow never wanted to kill eggman he just wanted to lock him up in some facility to keep watch on him for a while and sonic and rouge put the whole world in danger because they couldn't ask a question. And could open up a bunch of story opportunities with team dark considering that would be a huge trust issue.

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But yea, Eggman sure as fuck didn't waste time. I'm glad Ian fully embraces that he's a terrible person that does really terrible things. And I guess that was the payoff to the Mr. Tinkerer sub plot. I'm curious on what's his next move though, or is he just gonna sit on his ass until the Heroes go on the offensive.

Eggman is very good and being bad. And yeah that seems like and eggman movie, rest on his laurels get too cocky , get surprised  , get knocked down a peg.

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Sonic's side is mostly fluff, but I did like how he's trying to play off that he's obviously terrified of this virus and accidentally infecting one of his friends. Hope there's more of that.

I thought that was some neat character work.

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Kudos to this issue finally breaking the formulaic nature, if only for a brief period.

Also this!

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16 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Eggman wanting to T.O. planets is kinda out there.

~Nothing~ in the series has ever hinted at him being interest to Space Expand.

Eh, feels like an eggman thing to do. Would take over everything, get bored, and then restart so he could do it over again

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Just read the issue.

Sonic's trying his best to play off how worried he obviously is but it's great that I can see right through it. Just the expression he has on his face when he bolts out of Tails' workshop a couple of panels after realizing that gunk is still on his arm is fantastic. I like feeling like shit's gotten real. The ending caption saying "The Chaotix investigate the end of the world" is like someone waking me up in the middle of the night to tell me that Christmas came early.

There were a lot more cinematic moments in this issue too, most assuredly for the sake of really showing off just how fucked up this situation is. I appreciate the intense foreboding nature of what's going on. That scene where one of the villagers leaves a handprint on a tree and it starts to spread made me think of the part of a movie where an intense music sting would happen and then they'd cut to where the danger currently isn't for a bout of fluffy exposition. Only it was followed up by something that was still rather unnerving in concept.

Sonic linking his situation to the judgement thing from Secret Rings and the Werehog is a nice touch, though, I'd say it's a little worse than those. Tails comes to the conclusion that he can shave it off by running really fast but because it's a virus and he's been infected, it keeps growing back. That means he absolutely has to keep himself active, which probably means he's not going to be able to sleep for very long or even relax too often. 

It sounds terrifying. 

Eggman's just a right prick in this comic too. I mean... Jesus Christ dude. I really like it but goddamn, it still somehow surprises me just how ruthless this motherfucker is. Eggman is fun but I like being afraid of him as well it turns out.

This was a good issue. I really, really enjoyed it. 

 

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That was a great issue. I didn't expect Eggman to announce himself as Mr. Tinker and just outright snuff the village that saved his life and accepted him for who he was.  I guess in his mind, he's doing them a favor but I bet they regret EVER taking the fat man in after this whole mess is over.

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1 hour ago, SatAMhog said:

That was a great issue. I didn't expect Eggman to announce himself as Mr. Tinker and just outright snuff the village that saved his life and accepted him for who he was.  I guess in his mind, he's doing them a favor but I bet they regret EVER taking the fat man in after this whole mess is over.

The fact that he felt it was necessary to let them know it was Mr. Tinker doing that to them is like the sour cherry on top. 

It's so mean and for no real reason too. It's great. 

God, what an asshole. 

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Eh issue. Skelly's art was the highlight. Storywise this zombot thing is just so boring. It's basically an even less visually interesting version of roboticization. And this is going to be the main plot for the next few months...

Just give me a Sonic comic that's random adventures like the annual please.

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

The fact that he felt it was necessary to let them know it was Mr. Tinker doing that to them is like the sour cherry on top. 

It's so mean and for no real reason too. It's great. 

God, what an asshole. 

Agreed, that guy went from who leaned on the side of good/evil in SA2 to outright sadistic bastard who's tired of Sonic and wants to see all that he loves suffer even if he benefited from it.  The metal virus is probably the most advanced form of roboticization we've seen and it's scary because Sonic has to keep it at bay and be careful not to infect his friends.

2 minutes ago, Heckboy said:

Eh issue. Skelly's art was the highlight. Storywise this zombot thing is just so boring. It's basically an even less visually interesting version of roboticization. And this is going to be the main plot for the next few months...

Just give me a Sonic comic that's random adventures like the annual please.

What's so boring about it?  It's a rather deadly form of roboticization that's contagious not to mention dangerous...so much so, Sonic is having difficulty keeping it at bay with his speed.  This is probably the most interesting the comic's been for awhile though I do know where you're coming from with the annual...it had some wacky adventures and was fun.  Honestly though, I LOVE the direction that the series is going and besides, we have Tangle for the fun and goofy stuff.  

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