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1 minute ago, StaticMania said:

I wonder if Tails is allowed to be scared in this situation.

He's in a position where it would make total sense if he was.

Of course. He is the only one who can make a cure, and pretty much all of his attacks require touching an enemy which he can't do in this case. So he's not left with much options besides work on the cure.

27 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Hm.

I suppose it begs the question of who else they could've sent alongside them.

I'm shocked they didn't have Silver stay with him. He is the go to person to keep pressure off Tails with his psychic powers. He's a perfect counter to the zombots you can't touch.

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3 minutes ago, dbzfan7 said:

He's a perfect counter to the zombots you can't touch.

So is Shadow in theory if he had bothered to use his space distortion hax via Chaos Control.

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1 minute ago, MainJP said:

So is Shadow in theory if he had bothered to use his space distortion hax via Chaos Control.

Probably not that simple or he'd have done that. Silver's psychic powers are easy for him to use and don't require him to touch anyone. He really should be protecting the lab.

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9 minutes ago, MainJP said:

So is Shadow in theory if he had bothered to use his space distortion hax via Chaos Control.

Honestly, simply using Chaos Spear was working since it's a projectile. Heck, I think he actually used the boosters in his shoes at one point.

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7 minutes ago, MainJP said:

So is Shadow in theory if he had bothered to use his space distortion hax via Chaos Control.

In theory, but I severely doubt Shadow would be capable of spamming Chaos Control or Chaos Spear without draining himself out in a shorter manner of time. It also worth noting that Shadows pride essentially forced him to attempt to brute force his way through the ZomBots, even after Sonic warned him not too... so if he didn't keep his distance then you can't trust him to keep his distance now.

Whisper is a fine choice a personal bodyguard. She has a ton of battlefield experience as a cover-fire type sniper and most of her wispon settings allow her to keep her distance while still retaining a good deal of versatility.

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I mean, I feel like if we are going down the route of realistically fighting the Zombot invasion, I would of thought wearing protective gear would be an obvious first step. Something like a space suit or even a quarantine outfit, or perhaps something akin to the red, white, and black suits the Avengers used in Endgame. Not that it would do much good if you did get caught by a mob of Zombots, but it would at least give you a slightly better chance to survive.

It seems like Rouge is the only who has an outfit that covers most of her body, which would probably give her the best chance, not to mention she could fly too.

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16 minutes ago, Silvereyes said:

It seems like Rouge is the only who has an outfit that covers most of her body, which would probably give her the best chance, not to mention she could fly too. 

Why are you assuming it can't effect her clothing...?

Unless this protective gear is all metal, it's no dicing.

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1 minute ago, StaticMania said:

Why are you assuming it can't effect her clothing...?

Unless this protective gear is all metal, it's no dicing.

I think you're taking my comment more seriously than I intended. Personally, I was under the impression that so far, the metal virus goop didn't really disolve clothing or the like. It just took effect once it made skin contact. And this is the Sonic universe, I'm sure if the writers wanted to, they could invent a suit that meant the goop couldn't reach them. The issue would be risk of breach when attacked by swarms of feral Zombots.

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3 minutes ago, Silvereyes said:

...I'm sure if the writers wanted to, they could invent a suit that meant the goop couldn't reach them.

Well...it's not much, but surely Cream the Rabbit could fit inside of a hollowed out Gemerl.

That takes time off of actually building something.

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8 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Well...it's not much, but surely Cream the Rabbit could fit inside of a hollowed out Gemerl.

That takes time off of actually building something.

Wow, that sounded really dark for some reason.

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3 hours ago, StaticMania said:

I wonder if Tails is allowed to be scared in this situation.

He's in a position where it would make total sense if he was.

Nah somehow I'm sure him being overwhelmed will be seen as character assassination and Ian Flynn clearly hates Tails and so on and so on until the end of days.

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2 hours ago, Silvereyes said:

 Personally, I was under the impression that so far, the metal virus goop didn't really disolve clothing or the like. It just took effect once it made skin contact. And this is the Sonic universe, I'm sure if the writers wanted to, they could invent a suit that meant the goop couldn't reach them.

What would give you that idea? The metal virus was shown right of the bat with the ability to turn inanimate objects alongside flesh and blood. In the testing phase, it instantly trans-mutates the flower petals (while the living bark is a bit more resilient). When mobians are turned, they keep their gloves and shoes too. Clothing is fair game. Almost anything non-metal has proven to be an effective conduit.

 

The problem with protecting yourself from the virus stems from what happens when you get to a saturation point. Over-exposure is the key to quick transformation, and when you are fighting a horde, a literal tidal wave of infected... there isn't much you could design to resist that.

2 minutes ago, Ellipsis-Ultima said:

RI cover for issue 22!

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Halloween variant!!!

Nights Silver. The costume I never knew I needed

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On 9/24/2019 at 5:48 AM, Dr. Mechano said:

I've been thinking. Before regaining his memories, Mr. Tinker exclaims "I don't want to be Eggman!" I just really find that fascinating.

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Some part of Eggman, without the memories of his villainous career, manifested as a kind, compassionate inventor who just wants to help people. Some part of him that recoils at the very thought of becoming a supervillain again. Some part of him that just wants to live the rest of his life in peace.

That's probably the extent of what we'll ever see of this aspect of the character here, but I still think it's interesting. "Mr. Tinker" didn't come out of nowhere; Eggman's own mind formed that persona in the absence of any other memories to go on. He genuinely felt and thought and did kind things of his own volition.

I know it's beyond the scope of what Sega would ever allow Ian to do, but it really makes me wonder what set Eggman on the path to conquest in the first place. He just seemed so much happier and so much more fulfilled as a good guy, and it kinda makes me wonder what drove him away from that path originally.

Honestly it would have been cool to see more of that . I wish Mr Thinker stayed longer: it would have made him becoming Eggman again more tragic

52 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Nah somehow I'm sure him being overwhelmed will be seen as character assassination and Ian Flynn clearly hates Tails and so on and so on until the end of days.

Not even trying to fight enemies he has beaten in the past with ease even before his supposed trauma of Sonic dying and not being useful at all is character assassination; feeling stressed and worried because of his responsabilities and having to deal with a new danger never faced before it's complitely normal. 

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4 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

Probably not that simple or he'd have done that. Silver's psychic powers are easy for him to use and don't require him to touch anyone. He really should be protecting the lab.

No, Ian Flynn wanted him to be a zombie, and sega wanted him written a certain way. Shadow could done mad shit, the powers at be wanted otherwise. So it goes

 

1 hour ago, Ellipsis-Ultima said:

RI cover for issue 22!

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Halloween variant!!!

Shootouts to speed battle alts.

4 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

In theory, but I severely doubt Shadow would be capable of spamming Chaos Control or Chaos Spear without draining himself out in a shorter manner of time. It also worth noting that Shadows pride essentially forced him to attempt to brute force his way through the ZomBots, even after Sonic warned him not too... so if he didn't keep his distance then you can't trust him to keep his distance now.

We actually have no idea what shadows limits are because only saw him burn out...once and that's sa2 and hes grown since then. Theoretically we have no idea and he might actually be able to just...spam stuff. Or pull an 06 take his rings off and just run past everyone. Sega didn't just stop him from being nice to sonic, they stopped the whole sacrifice entirely. It's possible they want him to be written crazy strong and arrogant.  And any losses taken due to his ego, not to lack of trying.

4 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

Whisper is a fine choice a personal bodyguard. She has a ton of battlefield experience as a cover-fire type sniper and most of her wispon settings allow her to keep her distance while still retaining a good deal of versatility.

This is actually pretty goddamn smart. And I could just see whisper being a body guard for cash.

Wait forgot, sonic land has no money. Wait how do mercenary groups even exist then? Ah this is confusing.

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45 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

  And any losses taken due to his ego, not to lack of trying.

Shadow's pride is usually what does him in. He's remarkably similar to Sonic in that manner.

 

45 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

This is actually pretty goddamn smart. And I could just see whisper being a body guard for cash.

Wait forgot, sonic land has no money. Wait how do mercenary groups even exist then? Ah this is confusing.

Jackal Squad was looking to loot/raid an Eggman base. If Merc's can't get paid in cash, they can always resort to taking everything that's not nailed to the floor.

Speaking of which, Rouge steals gems, which much have some sort of monetary value if kept under lock and key. How do we explain that in an cashless society?

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20 minutes ago, Sega DogTagz said:

Shadow's pride is usually what does him in. He's remarkably similar to Sonic in that manner.

I don't know about usually. But nowadays that seems to be the name of the game. I guess that's the " We are making him really strong trade off "

Oh well, we will see how this goes I suppose.

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Jackal Squad was looking to loot/raid an Eggman base. If Merc's can't get paid in cash, they can always resort to taking everything that's not nailed to the floor.

Speaking of which, Rouge steals gems, which much have some sort of monetary value if kept under lock and key. How do we explain that in an cashless society?

The jackal thing makes sense. Kinda like borderlands, take things that make their job easier. Rouge could just like the gems and the happen to belong to other people, maybe its more so actual illegal monetary value theft in human land than on animal planet I dunno. As for how you explain it, much like many things in sonic I think the simple answer is " you don't "

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8 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

What would give you that idea? The metal virus was shown right of the bat with the ability to turn inanimate objects alongside flesh and blood. In the testing phase, it instantly trans-mutates the flower petals (while the living bark is a bit more resilient). When mobians are turned, they keep their gloves and shoes too. Clothing is fair game. Almost anything non-metal has proven to be an effective conduit.

Eggman's tests show it doesn't affect anything "inorganic or processed" (when tested on a rock, some motobug parts, and a sandwich). Organic fibers might be fair game but it should still be possible to make an effective hazmat suit.

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9 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

We actually have no idea what shadows limits are because only saw him burn out...once and that's sa2 and hes grown since then. Theoretically we have no idea and he might actually be able to just...spam stuff. Or pull an 06 take his rings off and just run past everyone. Sega didn't just stop him from being nice to sonic, they stopped the whole sacrifice entirely. It's possible they want him to be written crazy strong and arrogant.  And any losses taken due to his ego, not to lack of trying.

And Shadow tiring out was due to the Super form draining him. It's constantly mentioned during Finalhazard.

I don't think it's ever been stated or shown that simply using Chaos Control drains him.

13 hours ago, dbzfan7 said:

Probably not that simple or he'd have done that. Silver's psychic powers are easy for him to use and don't require him to touch anyone. He really should be protecting the lab.

I don't disagree about Silver being capable of that but with Shadow I just see it as PIS or CIS. He spams long range Chaos Powers all day long in SA2, Battle, Riders, Generations and Chronicles.

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41 minutes ago, MainJP said:

And Shadow tiring out was due to the Super form draining him. It's constantly mentioned during Finalhazard.

I don't think it's ever been stated or shown that simply using Chaos Control drains him.

I think its something we assumed because it makes sense if it would work that way but its never stated. And Sa2 is kinda weird because shadows...being alive retcons a bunch.  We have heard taking of his inhibitor rings drains him because the immense amount of power used so people assumed it was draining him on a smaller scale. This wouldn't be he first time a bunch of sonic fans thought something that seemingly made 100% sense and sega was like " Actually no "

 

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I don't disagree about Silver being capable of that but with Shadow I just see it as PIS or CIS. He spams long range Chaos Powers all day long in SA2, Battle, Riders, Generations and Chronicles.

This just seems like a situation where the writer wanted something , had an entire explanation planned. The IP holders said no to all of that, and the outline was already done so he forced a thing to happen that after the fact even he's like " No yeah that's not great " . I imagine in future he might plan shadow narratives farther out to avoid such things. Because yeah , shadow spams long range stuff all the time.

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11 hours ago, Ellipsis-Ultima said:

RI cover for issue 22!

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Halloween variant!!!

Someone pointed this out on Twitter and I can't unsee it. Is Eggman dressed like Mama Robotnik?

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