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32 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

I like how Eggman does this, but he literally started his Zombie invasion plan on the place where he became Mr. Tinker...

If it wasn't for some ironic tragedy on his part (not narratively), then there's some type of contradiction.

If he genuinely believes what he's doing will make for a better world, there's a twisted sort of logic in the villagers being the first ones to be "gifted" the virus. In fact looking back he kinda describes it that way, saying it'll make things perfect, no hunger or illness (also no free will, but he is, after all, a madman).

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>another fucking forced lyrics reference

Hahahaha this comic sucks so bad. This is worse than Shattered World at this point. It just keeps going on and on and on because Ian can't fucking pace a story.

"but idw made him do it cuz trades"

Who the fuck cares. He's been at this shit for 13 years. Write a bunch of strong short stories. If you're forced to do a saga for a year or more, write a bunch of connected four-parters or something. This shit has no flow or creativity to it. It's just things happening all over the place. Total fucking garbage.

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18 minutes ago, Heckboy said:

>another fucking forced lyrics reference

Hahahaha this comic sucks so bad. This is worse than Shattered World at this point. It just keeps going on and on and on because Ian can't fucking pace a story.

"but idw made him do it cuz trades"

Who the fuck cares. He's been at this shit for 13 years. Write a bunch of strong short stories. If you're forced to do a saga for a year or more, write a bunch of connected four-parters or something. This shit has no flow or creativity to it. It's just things happening all over the place. Total fucking garbage.

If a lyrical reference makes this irrational, then perhaps you should not be reading this comic?

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7 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Eggman quoted Open your Heart during his speech with Sonic.

I love how everyone had their hand on the fucking keyboard over that one.

Ah, don't know how I missed that. I thought that line sounded kind of awkward.

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Just now, Ryannumber1gamer said:

I feel dumb for not realising that was a reference, I thought it was just a general interesting viewpoint Eggman had, and Sonic countered it.

It doesn't flow like natural dialogue, which is what immediately tipped me off that something was off about it until I realized what it was from . 

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Just now, Kuzu said:

It doesn't flow like natural dialogue, which is what immediately tipped me off that something was off about it until I realized what it was from . 

I guess for me, I didn't notice it because Sonic's just beyond utterly exhausted at this point, and cutting the chase with a lot of his dialogue, so I naturally assumed he cut straight to calling Eggman's bullshit.

Which in hindsight, I can see how it's off now, but *shrug*

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2 minutes ago, thumbs13 said:

If you didn't know exactly what it was referencing, it probably doesn't stand out much. Variations on that exact line appear in tons of media.

Yeah, I thought it was just an awkward way of trying to make that type of line sound unique.

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20 minutes ago, thumbs13 said:

If you didn't know exactly what it was referencing, it probably doesn't stand out much. Variations on that exact line appear in tons of media.

I think it stands out quite a bit.

Stuff like that works better for monologues than dialogue, not the good kind of cheesy.

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i am liking the zombot arc so far myself. yeah sonic, you tried changing robotnik back to mr tinker but you oughto know better that bad guys sometimes stays as bad guys. But dr robotnik was a complete dirty coward and a big wuss. its full of suspense so far thats for sure because its quite dark with no funny events happening. its all about the hero having a very bad setback. but maybe in the future, there may be a miracle. who knows? anyway, looking forward to see more of it with tangle and whisper adding to the fray. 

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2 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

So, Tangle gettin slimed next time, igh?

She's with Tails, Amy, and the rest on the Restoration's airship not in Spiral Hill. Still possible, she could get zombotified, but not guaranteed.

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I thought the lyrical reference was dumb but it was a minor part in what was otherwise one of the strongest issues of the year IMO. Seeing Sonic hit a low point and Starline finally become disillusioned was satisfying. Things are finally starting to pay off. 

I only wish a more major development happened with Eggman. I really wanted Sonic to infect him and all 3 of them to leave the situation shaken up. I'm sure it'll happen at some point though.

I felt like this arc has been fairly predictable so far but I actually have no idea how this thing with the Deadly Six will shake out. Surely Zavok would have developed a counter for the conch by now. Arc has taken a while to get to the point but I'm pretty excited with how it's shaping up.

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43 minutes ago, Wraith said:

I only wish a more major development happened with Eggman. I really wanted Sonic to infect him and all 3 of them to leave the situation shaken up. I'm sure it'll happen at some point though.

I actually agree with that. I think it would've been interesting to tie up the whole plot point about Sonic nearly giving up entirely and letting the virus take him if maybe due to exhaustion, and sheer anger because of Eggman's refusal to make a cure, he ends up letting his self-control go and grabbing Eggman out of pure spite.

The whole point with Sonic this whole issue is trying to get answers, and trying to mock Eggman for a failed plan, and telling him to get busy on a cure. You can tell this issue is the point where Sonic is at his most desperate, and his breaking point. Usually, Sonic would not do something like infecting Eggman with this, but I think given the context of him being utterly exhausted, him feeling like a total screw-up, Eggman's longing gaze towards Mr. Tinker before completely shooting it down, and having the nerve to claim that not only is he/Sonic more similar than Sonic would care to believe, but completely shoots down any idea of becoming good, and undoing the horrific mess that he created.

I think that should've been the breaking point of Sonic. With all three attempts for Tails to make a cure now gone, with Resistance HQ gone along with a metric ton of the planet along with it, and Eggman refusing to lift a finger despite knowing how much danger he's in himself, plus his mocking that Sonic will soon be his slave, I think it would've fit the theme where Sonic just goes completely for broke, infects Eggman on purpose to force either him or Starline to develop a cure, only to immediately regret it once he realises he basically doomed another life that won't have as much of a chance to survive because Eggman can't shed the infection off.

It gives payoff to Starline pointing out that Eggman was so short-sighted not to make them immune to the cure, as well as Eggman's own boast of "don't let them touch you, duh". Considering that Eggman still felt the need to fight for another fight with Sonic, when the two could've just travelled to another infected village and left Sonic to his own borrowed time, it would've been a perfect payoff for Eggman's callousness throughout.

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