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On 12/21/2019 at 12:23 AM, Zaysho said:

This blaming Sonic for decisions all the other characters would have made anyway (especially when the Chaotix sat around and decided not to do anything and put it on Sonic in the first place) is getting tiring.

Just read this, but it really is. It started in the games with Lost World, then Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric did it, the Sonic Boom cartoon followed, and now the IDW comics are doing it too. If this is supposed to be showing that Sonic isn't perfect and makes mistakes, this isn't how you do it. It just makes the rest of the cast look like jerks.

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53 minutes ago, SSF1991 said:

Just read this, but it really is. It started in the games with Lost World, then Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric did it, the Sonic Boom cartoon followed, and now the IDW comics are doing it too. If this is supposed to be showing that Sonic isn't perfect and makes mistakes, this isn't how you do it. It just makes the rest of the cast look like jerks.

I really don't think it does. Sonic made the decision to not let shadow do the murder, and now this is happening. Along with eggman's previous action being called into context, while yes they should take stock in their own inaction their beef with sonic more than justified. This is what your protagonist being flawed looks like , sometimes people actually criticize him. I don't really think this is an issue and I don't think this makes them looks like jerks. Sonic took charge and decided this was what he wanted to do, he's getting called out for it.

One of my  issues is the person who probably should have the most uh...meaningful words for sonic , even if sega hadn't intervened would have been turned into a zombie for a cheap pop. And none of his or anyone elses  opinions of have actually mattered throughout the narrative? Like while other characters are criticizing sonic, he never stops to think his actions effect others. Its always " Its gonna be ok " or " i'm tired " like I think the characters need to keep criticizing him until he realizes " he needs to think " . He has not been criticized enough, sonic's thoughts are largely still self centered

My other issue is , its focused around eggman. Eggman has to become evil again because he's one of the most famous villians in media ever. He is never not going to be a bad guy, and to frame this sort of " did you do the right thing narrative " around him removes the nuance from it.

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23 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

They didn't announce anything for the next miniseries yet, why take so long

I assume because it's not coming out in March. Honestly I wouldn't expect any kind of announcement until the May solicits.

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13 minutes ago, Marco9966 said:

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This has obviously more impact and reward, because we got attached to Tangle and Whisper's friendship through the miniseries. If doesnt feel rushed like Cream or Chaotix turning zombots.

 

Da foq?

I'm sorry, got flashbacks to some of the more detailed rough stuff from Archie there.

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Also, more Walking Dead.

 

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8 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Da foq?

I'm sorry, got flashbacks to some of the more detailed rough stuff from Archie there.

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Also, more Walking Dead.

 

More Walking Dead means we need more conflict between the survivors.

And survivor factions fighting to death for supplies and weapons.

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2 minutes ago, Marco9966 said:

More Walking Dead means we need more conflict between the survivors.

And survivor factions fighting to death for supplies and weapons.

True.

Probably shouldn't have took credit for the walkie talkie then.

EDIT: That second sentence tho. :lol: 

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1 minute ago, DabigRG said:

True.

Probably shouldn't have took credit for the walkie talkie then.

EDIT: That second sentence tho. :lol: 

It's what happens there. 12 issue war arcs were fun because they were pumping them out weekly.

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1 minute ago, Marco9966 said:

It's what happens there. 12 issue war arcs were fun because they were pumping them out weekly.

Oh.

I've really only been into the games, so my thought would've been ANF.

Well that and the weapons in this case being Wispons.

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So. Those mandates people like to bring up.

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there is none. holy freaking god what was this issue. the art, the emotion, the despair, this isn't sonic the hedgehog this is Walking freaking Dead with animals

- Cream completely dead inside

- Tangle getting caught and hugging Sonic before that

- WHISPER'S REACTION TO IT what the frick was that

- And the absolutely horrifying scene of Whisper completely destroyed getting consoled by a six year old girl who lost everything so is dead inside

 

Issue 25 has some serious goddamn implications thanks to ABT's comment on it

 

.... Is Gemerl going to die trying to save Cream?

 

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44 minutes ago, JosepHenry said:

So. Those mandates people like to bring up.

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there is none. holy freaking god what was this issue. the art, the emotion, the despair, this isn't sonic the hedgehog this is Walking freaking Dead with animals

- Cream completely dead inside

- Tangle getting caught and hugging Sonic before that

- WHISPER'S REACTION TO IT what the frick was that

- And the absolutely horrifying scene of Whisper completely destroyed getting consoled by a six year old girl who lost everything so is dead inside

 

Issue 25 has some serious goddamn implications thanks to ABT's comment on it

 

.... Is Gemerl going to die trying to save Cream?

 

You wilding if you think this issue means mandates don't exist when the writer of this book has openly talked about being restricted by sega on a bunch of stuff.  And on something's afraid to even ask about.

Nothing you said falls outside any established sega rules of things they want restricted or specific characterizations. Particularly those pertaining to comic original characters the ones they care less about

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A shame I can't get it for Kindle until Thursday. Though hopefully when I do get my hands on it this embracing of utter despair doesn't just put me off the book. It's been a little too long since we've had any real levity or whimsey which for me typically gives the darker stuff more weight. When everything is dark and heavy all the time it starts to lose its impact and just becomes dull and monotonous.

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10 hours ago, JosepHenry said:

So. Those mandates people like to bring up.

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there is none. holy freaking god what was this issue. the art, the emotion, the despair, this isn't sonic the hedgehog this is Walking freaking Dead with animals

- Cream completely dead inside

- Tangle getting caught and hugging Sonic before that

- WHISPER'S REACTION TO IT what the frick was that

- And the absolutely horrifying scene of Whisper completely destroyed getting consoled by a six year old girl who lost everything so is dead inside

 

Issue 25 has some serious goddamn implications thanks to ABT's comment on it

 

.... Is Gemerl going to die trying to save Cream?

 

No the mandates definitely exist they're just not as restrictive as people make them out to be. This is a hill I'll die on.

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Why is this issue being released today?

Because it's Wednesday. I mean I know it's Christmas but it's still Wednesday. 

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7 hours ago, Your Vest Friend said:

It was dull and monotonous right after the first Chaotix issue of the arc. 

Which is also why that was more impactful than what went down in this issue. 

 No it wasn't. It was a good arc, I even enjoyed the Team Dark issues. I'm just tired and bored now, it's gotten old, I don't think it was rushed here either, it is just repetitive. The plot didn't advance either...

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The Deadly Six have just barely arrived, not much happens. It's like an aftermath story, barely filler, okay Tangle got infected, and she was awesome IMO, still very much Tangle, were there consequences? Yes, everyone is hopeless.

But in my opinion it's way too long and dark, it's actually pretty shallow and more of the same. Was this issue even needed? I actually agree with shorter arcs now, 12 issues arcs like season 1 are fine. Obviously it couldn't have been resolved in one issue... how about turning it into a pseudo-different story as follow up to the Metal Virus? That would have had both consequences and a new story instead of it dragging. Also break up a bit the boring and sad mood.

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While I do admit that the atmosphere has been a little too bleak lately, this was one of the stronger issues.

Issues that focus on the individual characters and highlight their characteristics tend to stand out much more to me and that was on full display here.

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Sort of confused by the reaction to this issue because I thought it was the best one yet. Made great use of the momentum from the miniseries and ABT's fantastic art to deliver the strongest gut punches yet imo. 

It's making me realize how the different artists bring these scripts to life for me. I'm generally way more invested in an ABT issue or an Evan issue than others. 

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1 minute ago, Wraith said:

Sort of confused by the reaction to this issue because I thought it was the best one yet. Made great use of the momentum from the miniseries and ABT's fantastic art to deliver the strongest gut punches yet imo. 

It's making me realize how the different artists bring these scripts to life for me. I'm generally way more invested in an ABT issue or an Evan issue than others. 

Me too.

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