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Just read #31. Good issue, I think, even if it is all over the place and has alot of set up for future plot lines.
 

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Sonic stuck in the Sol dimension with amnesia, Jewel taking over the Restoration, the sheer number of missing people that the Chaotix need to help find, Rough and Tumble out to cause trouble and learn nothing, Starline going on his own but also still oddly a fanboy of Eggman, Shadow being angsty and reflective, Eggman wanting to continue his plans, 5 of the 6 Zeti are MIA, the future is apparently bright for once... quite alot of stuff going on actually, even when it seems that the book is going to be a bit less serialised for the next few issues. I look forward to alot of this and where it may lead.

Kindof love the fact that seemingly everyone assumes Sonic will be back, it's very slightly meta. Tangle is seemingly the only one to question it with her still being the new girl. Vanilla and Vector is a nice moment, funny how the IDW book keeps reminding us of those past hinted romances that I think the main games have kindof forgotten about. I'm getting hyped for the Bad Guys mini-series with Starline's motivation here. He really is neutral evil frustrated with how chaotic good and chaotic evil Sonic and Eggman are. The fact the future is good is a fascinating element, although I kindof wonder if it just means we won't be seeing Silver for a while now. (Mind you, we don't see any people in his good future, so perhaps it turns out not be as good as he first thinks?)

 



So yeah, I like the issue, but I think it has alot of implications for the future of the comic, and really interested to see where they lead.

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1 hour ago, Kuzu said:

Of all of the fucking call backs, never thought I'd see 

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Vector's crush on Vanilla from Sonic X making a return

That had me laughing pretty hard

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I'm honestly surprised to hear that they brought his crush in. I would have figured since it's an element from a show and not the games that Sega wouldn't let that happen. I definitely don't mind though Vector crushing on Vanilla is pretty cute honestly. 

 

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#31... who boy. It's barely a issue, just tons of short. Would be nice if Flynn wrote an 1h long netflix series, but comic.... it's kinda like bag of  old candies from your aunt. Some better, some worse, you'll eat them all, but ultimately it's not something you would pick yourself. IDK, I feel a little empty. Wasn't last issue a clean-up epilogue thing?

Whatever. For funsies I'll try ranking the scenes from worst to best.

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10 Babylon Rouges
I know, unfair. Only 2 panels and acknowledgement from girls. I just needed full top 10. Still their screen time doesn't adds anything, they just there.
9 Silver
Similar case, just there to close his subplot. At least we see his future, that's something I guess?
8 Eggman/Omega
Well, that's a letdown. Some nice art, but it's just glorified recap/preview for upcoming events.
7 Shadow/Rouge
Sigh,I'm always on the fence when Flynn tries to fix his past mistakes. I never know if it's admirable or being unable to stick to your guns. But with Amy his 'apology' made me respect her more.
Here... well, that all there is to it. Shadow admitted his fault, broods a little, the end. No redemption, no deeper thoughts, no development. He won't even be in enxt issue (probably), that's a  bummer. And Rouge still can's get free to be her own thief/spy/seductress bat.
6 Cream/Chaotix
It's a little cute, that's it. A little cute to see Vanilla and Vector, even more when Cream is determined about "taking lots of notes". That's it.
5 Starline
While it is just a preview for the future, I am intrigued. I didn't see it coming that Starline will keep worshiping Eggman. It's kinda creepy. And I what the heck he's doing with that paint?
4 Sonic/Blaze
I know it's high, but it's mostly speaks about value of other scenes, rather than this one. In vacuum idea is interesting and mysterious. In context it's amnesia yet again and I'm 88% sure it will get fixed next issue.
3 Tails/Tangle
You think Cream was cute, look at Tails dorky face when he says "Sonic counting on us to keep peace". Whole scene has a nice comedic vibes, even if it's ridiculous that they won't just arrest those skunk idiots. I'm pretty sure they didn't served their time yet.
2 Tangle/Whisper
ARE THEY DRUNK FLIRTING!? I mean look Tangle's blush and how she leans on Whisper, who in turn waggles her tail! Sweet Light Gaia. I'm going to look very carefully at those two next issue.
I know, I'm probably reading too much into this, but screw it, I'll take all the fun I can squeeze out of this.
1 Amy/Jewel
Closest thing to something I genuinely like. Not because I totally called Jewel taking Amy's place, which obviously proves I'm the smartest and greatest and handsomest

Ekhm, sorry about that. No, it's just "Flynn's apology" done right. His explanation why Amy took the job makes sense and makes me respect her more. And I always bang on how Amy's love for Sonic should be noble source of her strength and this is exactly that. And Jewel taking her place does make sense and means Amy will have more freedom to be what we wanted, so yay that.

And that's that. This breakdone really makes me feel how weird this issue was. Insubstantial and yet full. Odd.

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1 hour ago, SBR2 said:
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I'm honestly surprised to hear that they brought his crush in. I would have figured since it's an element from a show and not the games that Sega wouldn't let that happen. I definitely don't mind though Vector crushing on Vanilla is pretty cute honestly. 

 

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The little Sonic Channel comic strips from a couple years back already replicated the Chaotix's house from X, so Sega are likely not too opposed to certain elements from the show. Vector was a wildly inconsistent character in the anime though, and with Vanilla being such a non-entity in the games..but I'm for anything that gives her more personality than "mom", especially liking how she immediately puts her family to work. This woman is organized alright!

 

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7 hours ago, Zulon Eredas said:

Yes. The Nazi symbolism was really suitable for a children's comic book. 😬

It’s not like children’s media has never explored Nazi symbolism before, dude.
 

This stuff isn’t new—we’ve been doing it for decades ever since Nazi’s were even a thing. It’s time we stop pretending what Sonic’s doing is something shocking and inappropriate in children’s fiction, especially when this current comic just finished an arc dealing with an apocalypse from a straight up bio weapon.

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Oh man. For a pretty simple sounding issue on the surface, I have a ton I want to say about it. I appreciate being able to catch up on what everyone's doing all at once. Obviously we're still in the aftermath and lead-up section but my God, it's actually great having everyone around to bounce off of again. I don't think a single main character wasn't at least seen or mentioned in this issue aside from Big the Cat.

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Mr. Needlemouse and Blaze - The sensuous looks on Sonic's face throughout these panels did initially through me off when I read the preview but I gotta admit, reading it again got a bigger chuckle out of me. The final panel where he's got that tiny teddy bear smile on as he's drinking tea is great. I'm all about it. However small this little excursion ends up being, I can see a mini Spongebob episode being made from Blaze having to deal with it.

Amy and Jewel - As was expected (at least by me) Amy's frustration with her situation has caught up with her and now Jewel, a woman dressed like a person who loves to organize things, is here to help. Though, she did say she was here to give Amy a break so who knows what's in store for her. Responsibility is a hard pill to swallow so I sympathize.

Tails, Tangle, Rough, and Tumble -  This was a cute scene, if only really because of Tails' adorable faces. Rough and Tumble are mildly amusing but I do feel sorry that because they were the literal first victims of the Zombot thing, their tenure as mainstays hasn't been explored too well comparatively. Their mileage is determined almost exclusively on how well their comedy is handled and not too much more. 

Silver - Silver's future will never not be confusing and I feel only sorrow and anguish on behalf of Ian for being left with the task of trying to make a proper sandwich out of this with broken bread and torn up baloney. Everytime I see Silver in the future I'm just wondering if he's constantly just a man out of his own time. His future changes around him but it doesn't affect him somehow. Is he talking with a friend and then suddenly the future becomes apocalyptic and his friend is wearing leather and holding a wooden bat with nails in it? Then Silver sighs and has to go back to the past to figure out what Eggman did this time. It's very amusing trying to make sense of it when you don't have to write it. 

Eggman, Orbot, Cubot, and Omega - Omega's dialogue continues to be 100% satisfactory. Eggman rebuilding Omega is definitely the only way this could have gone down in order for it to feel proper. I feel like if Tails had done it, it just wouldn't pass for me as feeling quite right since the renegade Eggman robot thing would have been a tad askew there.

Among the plate of interesting information is the fact that the rest of the Zeti are indeed just scattered now. I do personally find that incredibly interesting. I think we all have a good enough idea of what becomes of Zavok but the rest being up in the air intrigues me greatly. Another thing to comment on is Eggman saying, yet again, that he's just gonna barrel roll into the next project. The man is being portrayed as just relentless in his pursuit of this dream of his. It's almost like he's more of a force of nature rather than an actual human being. It's frightening.

Dr. Starline - It took a lot of willpower within me not to shut down all the people I saw on twitter way back saying that it was "obvious" Dr. Starline was going to betray Eggman when everything about his dialogue and mannerisms said that he clearly, fucking wasn't. Not intentionally anyway. I do appreciate it being spelled out here so that everyone can be on the level now about how he's an incredibly hopeless Eggman fanatic. It's amazing to me. The dude's goal is to surpass Eggman so he can then SEAT the guy he's attempted to surpass on a throne. That's so odd yet I can't help but respect the dedication to what he's about.

Team Chaotix and the Rabbit Family - So obviously, fucking obviously, this was my favorite part of the book. When I turned the page after the Eggman scene, even though Starline was next, my eyes traveled to the Chaotix on the other one and I had to hold myself back. I make no bones about it. I take every bit of my loveable lugs as I can get. Especially nowadays where Vector can't be fucked to be with his own team anymore. I'm incredibly happy that they've gone from lazy days at the office to literally being swamped with work. Like, the amount of missing person reports that have to be coming in after a world wide apocalypse has to be beyond monumental. There's no way three people could handle organizing all the paperwork and then go and search for the victims at the same time.

Luckily the Rabbit family is here to save the day. I love just how much about the Chaotix they're cribbing from Sonic X. The house is from Sonic X and so is this implied relationship between them. The way Vanilla and Cream just stroll on in as though it's a second household for them, baring snacks for their favorite detectives is almost too heartwarming a thing. It happened at the end of Season 3 too, only that scene was cut out of the 4kids dub.

I was surprised to see Vector's crush on Vanilla return, although, I do wonder if maybe that got by as a suggested "Oh no, he's just blushing because she complimented him" sort of thing. I also love how our resident mom character just immediately sets about organizing and filing as a competent woman who's got her shit together. It's great. I'd also like to comment on how Adam Bryce Thomas just makes the chao look beyond adorable. They are the absolute cutest things in a scene full of extremely cute things and everyone knows I'm all about the cute things. This whole scene was just the best. My heart thrives on wholesome Chaotix content and it's even better when the Rabbit family comes on in to hang with them. I'm glad Sonic X ending didn't mean the end to that either.

Shadow and Rouge - So there was a scene for Shadow that Ian Flynn really, really wanted to be in this particular issue and hoped SEGA would give him the okay to include it in. We found out a week ago on the Bumblekast that it wasn't taken away... but of course was heavily edited down to be as subdued as possible. Reading it now, I can totally see it too. Shadow's admission of respect for Sonic was probably supposed to be a lot more pronounced than it was here. As is, I'm shockingly perfectly okay with it. I dunno. I don't have a problem with lonesome, broody Shadow. I just prefer to be reminded that he CAN still do stuff like this. It's nice to at least know that Sonic being gone has affected him in some way and he's not just like "Well whatever. Fuck that guy I guess."

I also really like Rouge's reactions to him. SEGA can say whatever they want but Team Dark are friends. There's just no getting around it.

As an aside, those floating platforms were fun to see.

The Babylon Rogues and Whisper - I like that the Rogues are around for a party for a change, even if it's to mooch off the free food. Whisper still desires to be violent, which is fun, but I do side with Tangle that if the alliance of convenience is a thing than the aftermath parties can encompasse that... at least for some people. Not Eggman. He'll just show up in a giant robot and try to kill everyone.

 

That's it. T'was a fun time and I greatly enjoy just being able to be around these characters. 

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I honestly liked 31 more than the previous one. Maybe it has something to do with me missing that 30 existed somehow, maybe it's that this actually had stuff happening throughout, maybe it's the frequents delays making any time we're not going anywhere feel a tad frustrating.

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47 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

I don't think a single main character wasn't at least seen or mentioned in this issue aside from Big the Cat.

He appears at the party, attempting to fish in the fountain.

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I like this issue, but if there's anything I have to complain about...

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There's too little Blaze! Only two pages of the fiery feline considering we haven't seen her since last year's annual!  Blaze has definitely gotten the shaft with IDW. 😕

 

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Something I noticed about Adam's art this issue is the way the characters are drawn feel more 3D-ish at times and it looks really good.

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edit: spoiler tagged examples just in case

Could also just be the shading from Herms's colors giving off that illusion but I'm rather liking the more interesting poses and angles and expressions that are in this issue and the mood of the colors.

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An issue that's all set-ups for the future, sure, but I'm just always happy to see a bunch of quaint little character moments.

Man, Tangle and Whisper could not possibly get any gayer lol

 

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22 minutes ago, Natie said:

Man, Tangle and Whisper could not possibly get any gayer lol

I wonder how much it is intentional and how much it is just the fans reading a bit too deep into it. But yeah, if you ship them, the comic is certainly giving you alot of moments to post about.

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While members of the main cast not being allowed to die is a major mandate, are there any loopholes around it? Like can guys like Sonic, Tails or Knuckles get killed but revived later on?

In addition, can characters originating from the comics be killed off permanently? (Such as main characters, supporting characters, background characters and so on)

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3 hours ago, lulzers said:

While members of the main cast not being allowed to die is a major mandate, are there any loopholes around it? Like can guys like Sonic, Tails or Knuckles get killed but revived later on?

In addition, can characters originating from the comics be killed off permanently? (Such as main characters, supporting characters, background characters and so on)

Asking about what mandates do and don't exist and what you can and can't do with them is kinda pointless. They aren't things set in stone, they are things Ian has run up against in the here and now, and any aspect or scenario they involve can change day to day and story to story. 

For example, there is a supposed mandate that the main cast cannot have any explicit mention of parents. That exists right now because SEGA obviously don't want to commit to any plans involving that right now. But tomorrow may be different, say a mainline game changes it or the context may change or someone says "oh actually that seems interesting to explore now give us a fully detailed plan" and that mandate will no longer apply. 

They aren't some stone tablet if commandments (unlike what some people on twitter seem to weirdly insist they must be), it's just some note in an email that says to change X because Y. 

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SOLCITS TIME!

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Bad Guys #4: 

Dr. Eggman vs. the Bad Guys! Astonishingly, Dr. Starline's managed to hold together his motley crew of criminals long enough to almost achieve his goal and see his plan to fruition. Unfortunately, when Dr. Eggman gets wind of their activities, he sets his sights on them.

Will the Bad Guys stay together to scramble Eggman or will they crack? Find out in "No Honor Among Thieves," the thrilling conclusion to Sonic the Hedgehog: Bad Guys!

Release Date: December 23, 2020

 

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IDW Sonic #36: 

Strap on your snowshoes, an avalanche is headed straight for White Park Chateau! Sonic and gang are going to have to act quickly if they want to save the White Park guests and stop the hooded figure from getting away with Tails!

Join Evan Stanley for the action-packed conclusion of "Chao Races and Badnik Bases"!

Release date:  December 23, 2020

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That Sonic Battle cover is freaking cool tbh, also you could see the hooded figure in that too.

 

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