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Sonic Forces Digital Comic (Moment of Truth, Stress Test, Looming Shadow, Rise of Infinite)


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I don't mind not seeing the Ruby's origins, but it is kinda weird it just showed up for Eggman to find. I think it would've been more interesting if he had found it while actively searching for something else (maybe just a Chaos Emerald or w/e).

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Anyone else wouldve preferred if Infinite just stayed like this and his jackal army or whatever served under Eggman instead?

Actual personality, better design, has a cool sword. Not sayhing its much but if we cant have Nack id be nice to have a genuinley evil furry under Eggman's employ whos not being maniplated or mind controlled. I prefer this instead of what we got.

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Eh, these comics are pretty much Ian and the western team picking up the scraps that Sonic Team forgot to add into the game altogether

It's kinda hillarious that Eggman picked it up at his literal front door, but it's still a better explanation than no explanation, lol

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5 minutes ago, Soniman said:

Anyone else wouldve preferred if Infinite just stayed like this and his jackal army or whatever served under Eggman instead?

Actual personality, better design, has a cool sword. Not sayhing its much but if we cant have Nack id be nice to have a genuinley evil furry under Eggman's employ whos not being maniplated or mind controlled. I prefer this instead of what we got.

I was just neutral on Infinite with the base game, but this and even Episode Shadow made me like him, honestly. Finding out he was always just kind of a jerk really surprised me since I figured they'd do some "oh but he used to be a good guy, and YOU can save him!" kinda deal. (Mind you I'm way into that kind of cheesiness so I would have enjoyed that too, but points for unpredictability.)

Unfortunately this means I'm even more annoyed that he literally just ceased to exist with no sendoff whatsoever.

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I just read that comic, out of morbid curiosity to see what the idea they had was for Infinite's backstory, and WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. What trash.

He's just some guy that randomly decides "Fuck it, I'll team up with Eggman for no adequately established reason." That's it. Nothing more. Like everything else in Forces' story, it is flaccid and meaningless. I'm not exaggerating when I say that you could pick any fan theory, any piece of fan fiction; sod it, any bit of Sonic-themed pornography; and it would be so much better than anything Forces or its comics have offered by virtue of actually having something to consider and discuss. Something that changes the characters, something that's more than just 'this happened and then this happened and then this other thing happened', something with actual fucking substance.

What trash. What utter, fucking trash.

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You know after now seeing Infinite with his squad I gotta say his reasoning for becoming Infinite could have been a lot better had it actually been instead of refusing to call himself weak they could have went with him admitting himself as weak, but because of his weakness, his inability to save or even avenge his squad he goes through having a mental break down along with how he himself is shaking because he was scared he realizes what probably went through the mind of his fallen team as they were taken down by Shadow (I would have to assume they're dead) and because of all this he decides to discard his weak former self and be reborn as Infinite. Power would mean a lot to Infinite because his life as a mercenary, especially as a leader is what he needed in order to survive and for his team as a beacon of strength hence why he desires power so much so that it has drove him off the deep end and because of his failure in regards to his team it ends up being the pain that he was born with as it haunts him.

 

"All this time I've been going through the motions. I've actually grown quite tired of the world as it is."

This could have been him mentioning how he tires of his rough mercenary life and that Eggman's proposal is not only a chance to save his team, but a way for him and them to finally have what they wanted out of life and to actually live instead of having to make ends meat.

 

So yeah I wish they had went into this direction and they could still in some of the things above, but yeah they dropped the ball here in making him a sympathetic tragic villain. I'll still say he's better than the Deadly Six.

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He seems to be really chill, cocky and reckless here...he honestly seems like a completely different character from the guy we spend most time fighting. Suddenly now he's all prophetic, sinister, manipulative,etc.? Where did that come from?

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Oh good. His motivations are convoluted and unclear. Thanks for that, Sega. 

So this is what it would be like if Sega had Ian's hands tied to their vision. Yeah, no thanks. No Sega Mandates on Sonic comics when you guys don't even know how to tell a story.

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On 11/7/2017 at 4:27 PM, KHCast said:

He seems to be really chill, cocky and reckless here...he honestly seems like a completely different character from the guy we spend most time fighting. Suddenly now he's all prophetic, sinister, manipulative,etc.? Where did that come from?

From trying to be another Black Doom/Mephiles.

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On 07/11/2017 at 4:57 PM, FFWF said:

The format definitely works against this one, with the Phantom Ruby appearing abruptly and nonsensically, and Infinite instantly agreeing to join Eggman.  Given that the Phantom Ruby creates "real illusions," maybe it's constantly projecting illusions just to itself and can generate functional illusory space-time warps that teleport it about the universe(s)?  It's never really explained why it can warp stuff in canon, too, so I think I'll just quietly headcanon that.

I quite enjoyed this last comic otherwise, though.  It was genuinely refreshing seeing a gang of villainous animals around, and seeing proto-Infinite actually enjoying himself for a change, relishing in his success and ambitious, kind of made him actually likeable; gave something to relate to.  It cannot be overstated how much Shadow ruined this character.  Here we had someone who was powerful and content on their own merits, worked for Eggman on his own terms - and then he just happened to run into the most overpowered person in the world, and learnt that the only way to be really strong was to be a lone wolf with science magic.  What a waste.  His backstory's "Modern Fang the Sniper" vibe is just so much fresher.

I agree the format works against but it gets across the main points well. I was kinda hoping Fang The Sniper would be Infinite while playing the game, even if I knew it would'nt happen. (Plus it would blow everyone's minds and hype up the moment) But I'll gladly take this Modern Fang anyday. But that's the thing, I like Infinite but do we have do create a new bad every game? Why not use the old rogue gallery like Fang and Bean as a recurring villain like Metal Sonic? They even have easy motives.

On 07/11/2017 at 7:59 PM, Arcedia said:

I suppose the actual ruby is from mania,it teleports classic sonic and itself to Forces dimension,then Eggman founds (tho it literally fell to his doorstep) it and kicks the events of the game

Yeah, I don't get why this simple explanation flew over everyone's heads. The Chaos Emeralds went Chaos Control and sent Classic Sonic and the Phantom Ruby to two different points of time. I feel like the point of Mania was to show the Phantom Ruby is attracted to those in pursuit of power, like the Hardboiled Heavies. Hence, the will of the Ruby led it to to Eggman's Lab. It's like the will of the Chaos Emeralds in Rush Adventure if anyone recalls that lore..

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Again, like with a lot of their stuff, the initial concept and idea behind it isn't inherently bad. Sometimes it's really interesting.

However, the execution is amateur hour, almost every hour. 

Infinite being the leader of this band of marauders and becoming so obsessed with power that he later abandons his squad and becomes a guy whose "mask can't hide how lonely" he is just begging for expansion and clarification. Already, I'm imagining him actually having been decent at the start and then putting together this group after a ton of bad shit happened in his life and just going so far off the deep end that he just drowns in his own self-importance. Probably could have been a decent tragedy had he initially intended to do what he did for the sake of his friends even.  

But no, it's Sonic Team. A development team with writers that don't capitalize on what they have with extra writers in America who make Tails say stuff like "You trust Eggman more than me".

Either Stress Test, the comic with Knuckles on Angel Island with the illusion of the Pachacamac village, was something that was Ian's idea or possibly even worse, Sonic Team deliberately decided to put it in the prequel comic to remind us that they haven't forgotten about this stuff but don't want it exposed to the general public or referenced in the games anymore because fuck the world and it's characters actually. 

"Like we'll pretend to care enough to come up with concepts but expecting us to utilize them to their fullest? Pfft. Sonic's gonna sell no matter what. You eat that shit up you fucking pigs." ~ Sonic Team, 2017

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Yeah, in short, all of those stories are nice, some sweet artwork, but they just there.

Moment of truth is Avatar commercial, nothing more. Kinda pointless considering that avatar will look different.

Stress Test is an apology for not having Chaos fight in the game, which isn't enough. Still, it's probably the best one,  it's complete on its own and serves a purpose in the grand narrative.

Looming Shadow is sooo incomplete. Tells you nothing beyond Shadow DLC, end without achieving anything.

And Rise of Infinite... I gave a bit of though to Infinite as a character and this comic doesn't fit. Maybe doesn't break anything, but doesn't build up naturally on anything we learned before.  Did infinite ever felt so wild/a bit crazy or even wanted to 'change the world'? I kinda took him for egoist who looks only for #1.

Still, I guess it's better to have them than nothing at all. They aren't worse then some tie-in adaptations Archie did in the past.

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