Sonic Forces SPOILER Thread

[theofficefan99]

I just watched footage of that Death Egg zone or whatever and it looks like a copy-and-paste of the Colors Asteroid zone. Seriously. Like literally almost everything was exactly the same.

 

The final boss looks like an exact copy-and-paste of Colors' final boss, too.

[McGroose]

I have no doubt 4 years of work went into this, but how much of that work was Sega not being sure what the hell they should be doing? It's pretty likely that Boom Sonic was in the game, but at what point did he get scrapped and all of his material got reworked? How much time and resources went into the Switch port and how did this affect the production of the game (asking since the devs said that the switch port was a concern at one point)? How hard was it to make this game and how many different phases did it go through? Was Sonic Forces supposed to be something else entirely? This feels like a mosaic of scrapped ideas and tidbits of levels from previous games poorly combined into one barely cohesive mess.

This'll probably be the most interesting development history of a Sonic game since Sonic Xtreme.

[StaticMania]

4 minutes ago, Count Vegeta said:

You know, the dialogue here isn't much better than it was in Colors, Generations, and Lost World. Kinda defeats the point of having a "more serious" story.. 

No it doesn't defeat the purpose, the story just isn't good...

[Balding Spider]

You know what? I do appreciate that they at least worked in Eggman's theme in this game after being gone from Lost World

[Shiguy]

32 minutes ago, Super Mechanio said:

HE'S THE LEADER OF THE BUNCH

YOU KNOW HIM WELL

HE FIXES ROBOTS

UNLIKE TAILS

You know it really says something when there's been two references to the DK rap both taking shots at something negative about Forces in this thread. Maybe it's a sign? Not about Forces quality, rather something...

BIGGER BETTER FASTER, AND STRONGER TOO

HE'S THE FIRST AIDDER OF THE D-K CREW

HUH!

D-R!

DOCTOR KONG!

D-R 

DOCTOR KONG IS PAGING IN!

[Diogenes]

16 minutes ago, hifihedgehog said:

I am not too sure about that as there are way too many The Force Awakens parallels going on here. We have an antagonist Infinite hiding behind a mask (like Kylo Ren), Sonic goes missing (like Luke Skywalker), an otherwise nobody of an Avatar who demonstrates powers when first encountering the Phantom Ruby prototype (like Rey when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber), and the power of a virtualized sun comes close to burning the remaining Resistance to a crisp (like the Starkiller Base which harnessed the power of the sun to destroy entire star systems).

These are incredibly tenuous links to a movie that came out only two years ago, when this game was (supposedly) already well into development.

[Balding Spider]

16 minutes ago, theofficefan99 said:

I just watched footage of that Death Egg zone or whatever and it looks like a copy-and-paste of the Colors Asteroid zone. Seriously. Like literally almost everything was exactly the same.

 

The final boss looks like an exact copy-and-paste of Colors' final boss, too.

Oh don't worry the penultimate stage is just a low energy version of Terminal Velocity, that leads into another rip off of a Nintendo series.

[KirbyFanDL3]

I'm pretty sure someone asked this before, but now that the game has been beat, does anyone know how many main story levels there are?

[LongcrierCat]

Oh you've got to be kidding me. 

Alright, I surrender. Not only is this a hollow version of the comics and SatAM, it couldn't even be assed to give us more of an exciting... everything about Infinite. I was waiting for a mask unveiling to find he was the avatar from a failed timeline. Maybe he was the Avatar's Buddy. But nah. He just... disappears. Was he nothing more than an illusion? Even worse is why would the Doctor design him to look like that? Nothing has been explained. And where the hell is Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik most of the time anyways? SatAM Robotnik was more hands on about this kind of situation. He at least actively antagonized Sonic and the Freedom Fighters. What does he do here? Sit in the background and plot? That's so boring. It's like you didn't even try.  

I would have said that the story and plot would have been reason to play the game but it's been assed even less than usual, only giving us the Comics and SatAM angle because they know that some of us really enjoy that story. Did they think we were playing the game for the game? Because from everything I've seen, that is simply not the case. It's too straightforward for me to get invested and there's not any real challenge for me to want to come back to the game. 

This game is everything I hate about Modern Sonic but I was holding on too much to what I did happen to like in the presentation (though Infinite's design was not one of those things lol). At least I got some nice music to jam out to sometimes (that Stardust Speedway remix is still good okay?). 

And boom. We still didn't even see what the Mobius Loop/Infinity Symbol from the E3 trailer was. I'm going to accept what everyone else said as they said it was a prototype logo for him now. Geez. This whole game was a waste of time. Some of the plot was fine but for the most part it was a throwaway plot that while serviceable betrays any dedication longtime Sonic fans have to this franchise. I was waiting for the game to get crazy, you know? To hit me upside the head with something completely ridiculous but no. We don't even get that. We just get the most basic "War is hell, Life is The Matrix" kind of meta narrative that while can be good was executed piss poorly here. 

Yeah uh. I'm expecting 6-7s at best. This wasn't that good. 

Oh and getting rid of the drift was a bad idea, Sonic Team. There was nothing exciting going on. At least the race track like design of Generations was fun but this is the most automated and base level roller coaster we've gotten from you. Retire the boost formula. It's clear you've exhausted it completely. Sega? Restructure your business. Sonic Team can't make Sonic games all the time or we'll keep getting made by committee disasters like this. Rename them, let them make new games or new installments of things like Burning Rangers and Ristar, and let other devs try their hand at 3D Sonic now. And this time? Work on your communication skills, damn it. 

[TheOcelot]

Just now, KirbyFanDL3 said:

I'm pretty sure someone asked this before, but now that the game has been beat, does anyone know how many main story levels there are?

30 main levels + some bonus stages.

[DiamondX]

Wait, so Iizuka said tons of old levels will return in this game. Yet we have:

-City

-Green Hill

-Chemical Plant

-Death Egg

-Metropolis

-Eggman Empire Fortress

-Mystical Jungle

 

Not only does the game only have 7 zones, but only 3 are old. DID THEY CUT THAT MUCH CONTENT?!

[WhoWhatMan]

Any info on the extra/EX stages? I know there's "secret" levels but they're basically reworked version of the normal levels. Is that the same for the extra?

[Multikaris]

2 minutes ago, TheOcelot said:

30 main levels + some bonus stages.

Possibly at least three more post-game levels to tie up loose ends.

[Indigo Rush]

1 minute ago, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Wait, so Iizuka said tons of old levels will return in this game. Yet we have:

-City

-Green Hill

-Chemical Plant

-Death Egg

-Metropolis

-Eggman Empire Fortress

-Mystical Jungle

 

Not only does the game only have 7 zones, but only 3 are old. DID THEY CUT THAT MUCH CONTENT?!

Casino Night is basically Mystic Jungle at points, so there's another one for you.

[DiamondX]

Ok. 4. But how is that a lot?!

[KHCast]

2 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Possibly at least three more post-game levels to tie up loose ends.

Where's the evidence for this? You keep saying this

[speedfreak]

So it didn't even end up being the real Shadow, Chaos, Metal Sonic, and Zavok? The only thing I felt that was genuinely cool about the game isn't even real. On top of that you only get to fight two of the four fakes.

Also I watched a bunch of levels. None impressed me in the least. Nothing even came close to the best of SU or SG. I also watched the final boss. Oh good another Colors final boss rehash except worse.

Fuck this game. What a phoned in piece of shit.

[superman43]

2 minutes ago, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Ok. 4. But how is that a lot?!

Actually, Metropolis really seems (at least to me) kind of similar to Grand Metropolis from Heroes.

[Multikaris]

2 minutes ago, KHCast said:

Where's the evidence for this? You keep saying this

Sega said that Shadow would be usable in ten modern Sonic stages. We’ve only seen seven. There’s also the Tails storyboard we haven’t seen yet, and apparently Seaside Hill. 

[WhoWhatMan]

1 minute ago, Miragnarok said:

Sega said that Shadow would be usable in ten modern Sonic stages. We’ve only seen seven. There’s also the Tails storyboard we haven’t seen yet, and apparently Seaside Hill. 

Whoa Storyboard? What's the story of that "rumor"

[KHCast]

2 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Sega said that Shadow would be usable in ten modern Sonic stages. We’ve only seen seven. There’s also the Tails storyboard we haven’t seen yet, and apparently Seaside Hill. 

10 stages, but nothing says 10 unique different areas, and yeah what's this storyboard shit going on?

[Multikaris]

1 minute ago, DanisWhite said:

Whoa Storyboard? What's the story of that "rumor"

The one with Tails actually facing off against Chaos?

[MysteriousGirl 92]

On 10/27/2017 at 7:56 PM, Blue Blood said:

They've been torturing Sonic for months.

So, how was Sonic tortured? Mentally? Physically? Emotionally? Also, wouldn't someone who has been tortured for six months be broken and miserable?

[CottonCandy]

Yeah.. having to look at the whole game again. It does feel they cut out some content. Also did they ever explain what happened to eggman at the end of the game? 

[Balding Spider]

8 minutes ago, speedfreak said:

So it didn't even end up being the real Shadow, Chaos, Metal Sonic, and Zavok? The only thing I felt that was genuinely cool about the game isn't even real. On top of that you only get to fight two of the four fakes.

Also I watched a bunch of levels. None impressed me in the least. Nothing even came close to the best of SU or SG. I also watched the final boss. Oh good another Colors final boss rehash except worse.

Fuck this game. What a phoned in piece of shit.

Dude, while going through everything we've seen, forces feels like the most non-cannon Sonic game ever created.