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Wow, surprised they added Multiplayer support for the Spirit Board. I wonder if they adjusted the difficulty to account for the extra players. I still would've preferred if they focused on adding local multiplayer support for Online Arenas first, though. Seriously, why can we have a local partner for Quick Play against strangers but not for Arenas with friends?

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I got my Plant Boi today, and he’s great! Only two gaping problems for me:

-His Neutral B goes up one when you aim it in a direction, and then stops altogether.

-His Side-B requires two button presses to perform.

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10 minutes ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Apparently, there have been multiple reports of save data getting corrupted when using Plant in All-Star mode. Just figured I'd let y'all know.

The Piranha Plant trolls never end.....

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I don't touch fake all-star mode so I'm safe XP

 

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1 hour ago, Tracker_TD said:

For once there's proper patch notes!

Whole lotta buffs.

...whereas my main, Mega Man, only got nerfed. Sad times.

Let me see

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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Update Ver. 2.0.0 - Fighter Adjustments
Mario

  • Dash Attack: Adjusted launch angle.
  • FS Meter: Extended launch distance.

Donkey Kong

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Link 

  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Neutral Special: Extended the time from when the arrow is loosed to when it disappears.

Samus

  • Side Special: Extended the range of the missile and reduced the vulnerability when using the move in the air.
  • Down Special: Reduced vulnerability.

Dark Samus

  • Down Special: Reduced vulnerability.

Yoshi

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Kirby

  • Dash Attack: Increased power range and attack power while maintaining launch distance.
  • Side Tilt Attack: Slightly reduced vulnerability and extended undamaged launch distance.
  • Down Special: Adjusted the super armor frames after using the move.

Pikachu

  • Grab Attack: Shortened hitstun time.

Luigi

  • Up Smash Attack: Extended launch distance.
  • Down Air Attack: Opponents on the ground will no longer suffer a meteor effect.
  • Side Special: Reduced vulnerability.
  • Down Special: Extended launch distance.

Ness

  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack: Increased attack power and maintained launch distance.

Jigglypuff

  • Side Tilt Attack: Reduced vulnerability.
  • Down Tilt Attack: Extended launch distance.
  • Up Smash Attack: Increased attack power of low-power zone.
  • Back Air Attack: Increased attack speed.
  • Forward Throw: Adjusted launch angle.
  • FS Meter: Extended launch distance.

Peach & Daisy

  • Up Special: Shortened launch distance of repeated attacks.

Bowser

  • Neutral Attack: Increased power.
  • Side Tilt Attack: Increased power.
  • Down Smash Attack: Extended launch distance.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to hit multiple times.
  • Final Smash & FS Meter: Crouching opponents will now be launched the same as standing opponents.

Ice Climbers

  • Basic Movements: Nana and Popo will follow each other more when separated.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to grab edges.

Sheik

  • Up Smash Attack: Increased the first attack’s range.
  • Down Smash Attack: Made it easier to hit multiple times.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Side Special: Reduced vulnerability.

Pichu

  • Grab Attack: Shortened hitstun time.

Ganondorf

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Ganondorf

  • Up Air Attack    Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Mewtwo

  • Dash Attack: Shortened the downtime from shielding.
  • Side Tilt Attack: This move will now always launch forward.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to grab edges.

Roy

  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Chrom

  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Up Special: Shortened the meteor distance. When falling off the stage with an opponent, Chrom will be KO’d first.

Mr. Game & Watch

  • Forward Air Attack: Increased attack range.

Mr. Game & Watch

  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Pit    

  • Final Smash & FS Meter: Crouching opponents will now be launched the same as standing opponents.

Zero Suit Samus

  • Side Smash Attack: Shortened the launch distance when the attack hits the middle of an opponent's body.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Special: Shortened the amount of time undamaged opponents are buried.

Wario

  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Snake    

  • Up Tilt Attack: Extended the high-damage window.

Ike

  • Up Special: Shortened the meteor distance.

Charizard

  • Dash Attack: Increased attack power and extended launch distance.

Diddy Kong

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Lucas    

  • Up Tilt Attack: Added electrical damage.
  • Neutral Air Attack    Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack    Added electrical damage.
  • Grab Attack:    Added electrical damage.

Sonic    

  • Side Tilt Attack: Made it easier to hit multiple times.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened hitstun time.
  • Back Air Attack: Reduced vulnerability when landing.
  • FS Meter: Extended launch distance.

King Dedede

  • Side Special - Reduced the attack range of the moving Gordo.

Lucario

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Neutral Special: Shortened hitstun time.
  • FS Meter: Increased power.

R.O.B.

  • Side Special: Made it easier to hit multiple times.

Toon Link

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Back Air Attack:    Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Mega Man

  • Side Tilt Attack: Special moves will not be activated when jumping and using Mega Buster.

Rosalina & Luma

  • Dash Attack: Made it easier to hit multiple times.
  • Up Tilt Attack: Extended launch distance for Luma's Up Tilt Attack.
  • Down Tilt Attack: Extended the distance Luma moves forward.
  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move. Increased the amount of time hit detection lasts.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time between the start of the move and the meteor effect.
  • Neutral Special: Reduced vulnerability when sending out and calling back Luma.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to grab edges.
  • Final Smash & FS MeterShortened the distance you can shift when the attack is making contact.

Little Mac

  • Neutral Air AttackShortened the landing time and the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Greninja

  • Down Smash Attack: Increased the range of the inner attacks.
  • Up Special: Can no longer move immediately when landing on a moving platform or slanted ground.

Mii Brawler

  • Flurry Attack: Increased attack range and shortened the opponent's hitstun shuffle distance.
  • Up Smash Attack: Extended the high-damage window and reduced the low-damage window.
  • Neutral Air Attack: Reduced vulnerability when landing after using the move.
  • Back Air Attack: Reduced vulnerability when landing after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Increased power.
  • Neutral Special: Increased power.
  • Neutral Special: Reduced vulnerability.
  • Side Special: Extended distance and increased speed.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to grab edges.
  • Down Special: Greatly increased damage to opponents' shields.
  • Down Special: Extended launch distance of kick performed with extra input.

Mii Gunner

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Palutena    

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened hitstun time.
  • Up Special: Made it easier to grab edges.

PAC-MAN

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time and the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Neutral Special: Extended the time until you disappear after landing the attack.

Robin

  • Up Special: Increased the speed of the backwards edge-grab range detection.

Shulk

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time and the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Duck Hunt

  • Neutral Special: Reduced vulnerability.
  • Side Special: Increased vulnerability. Shortened hitstun time for the exploding clay pigeons.

Ryu

  • Neutral Attack: Opponents hit in the air will be launched, making it easier to hit them with the next hit.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Down Tilt Attack: Can no longer jump immediately after using the move.

Ken

  • Neutral Attack: Opponents hit in the air will be launched, making it easier to hit them with the next hit.
  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Down Tilt Attack: Can no longer jump immediately after using the move.

Cloud

  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Special: Increased the range of Finishing Touch at the beginning of the move.

Corrin 

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.

Bayonetta

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Inkling

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Side Special: Shortened the amount of time undamaged opponents are buried. Moved attack range back while on the ground.

Ridley

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Forward Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • FS Meter: Increased power.

King K. Rool

  • Neutral Special: Shortened the length of the vacuum effect.
  • Up Special: Reduced the range of the attack.
  • Downward Throw: Shortened the amount of time undamaged opponents are buried.

Isabelle    

  • Neutral Air Attack: Shortened the landing time and the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.

Incineroar  

  • Up Smash Attack: Extended launch distance.
  • Up Air Attack: Shortened the amount of time you cannot grab edges after using the move.
  • Down Air Attack: Shortened the landing time after using the move.
  • Up Throw: Extended launch distance.
  • Up Special: Extended vertical and horizontal distance.

 

 

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3 hours ago, StaticMania said:

His Side Special is a Charge move. A stored charge.

Well, I think a better way to have executed that, in my opinion, is letting the attack be fully charged, saving it for later, and than pressing the button again.

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3 hours ago, Jingilator said:

Well, I think a better way to have executed that, in my opinion, is letting the attack be fully charged, saving it for later, and than pressing the button again.

That is what it does, though. If you keep letting him charge it'll be available for use later once he finishes, and he'll have this purple smoke around his feet indicating that it's good to go.

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5 hours ago, Jingilator said:

Well, I think a better way to have executed that, in my opinion, is letting the attack be fully charged, saving it for later, and than pressing the button again.

This doesn't make sense. That's exactly what you do already, what are you saying?

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15 hours ago, Jingilator said:

So I played some more with Piranha Plant today and it turns out you really could keep it charged. I’m disappointed in myself for not realizing that sooner.

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Hey, no worries man! It's a simple mistake, no big deal.

Speaking of that move, it's kinda insane... You can get opponents up to like 70% if you use it in conjunction with his tap A move (I don't remember what it's called, but a lot of characters have like a fast multiple punch move you do by tapping A).

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On 1/31/2019 at 4:29 PM, Radiant Hero Ike said:

Hey, no worries man! It's a simple mistake, no big deal.

Speaking of that move, it's kinda insane... You can get opponents up to like 70% if you use it in conjunction with his tap A move (I don't remember what it's called, but a lot of characters have like a fast multiple punch move you do by tapping A).

To be more specific that variant is called a 'rapid jab'. Any neutral A can just be called a 'neutral attack' or a 'jab', the ones that have an infinite get those variants usually called rapid jabs from what I've seen in the community.

Also Pirahna Plant feels really fucking weird. Certainly unique and doesn't disappoint for what a weird playable character choice it looked like, but I don't think I'm gonna be playing as it very often. Can't get used to that neutral special lol

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1 hour ago, spinny said:

To be more specific that variant is called a 'rapid jab'.

Rapid jab is an actual attack animation. There's no actual name for the thing he was talking about and people just end up calling it that or multi-jab. 

Really fast jabs means that can happen.

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4 hours ago, Forte-Metallix said:

Regarding a certain character leak, we've got even more evidence:

 

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I mean, I wouldn’t mind Erdrick but come on…if you couldn’t use Sora, you could just as easily use Neku Sakuraba. Air-Dick would be lucky to have even one song from Dragon Quest considering how much of a donkey’s rear end the composer is.

 

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5 hours ago, Forte-Metallix said:

Regarding a certain character leak, we've got even more evidence:

 

Remember when I said someone was bound to make it in DLC the day of Joker's announcement.  Good times 😉 

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JTBC I have no current attachment to the franchise, I just knew it was bound to happen

 

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At this point, if it happens it happens.

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I'm a bit skeptical since I don't think Kumazaki is heavily involved in Smash. He's an "original game supervisor" but that's one guy among many with that credit, and that's because he's the current director for Kirby.

I have come around to being okay with a Dragon Quest hero though (there are DQ characters I'd prefer to see, but it really doesn't make a difference who they use), but I honestly don't like the idea of Sugiyama seeing a dime from licensing revenue for music. And that's assuming the licensing hoops for the character aren't as much of a pain in the ass as one would think.

 

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5 hours ago, Jingilator said:
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I mean, I wouldn’t mind Erdrick but come on…if you couldn’t use Sora, you could just as easily use Neku Sakuraba. Air-Dick would be lucky to have even one song from Dragon Quest considering how much of a donkey’s rear end the composer is.

 

 

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If they were choosing DLC characters based on music, or indeed rejecting DLC characters based on the music (or its composer), that would be one thing.  But Neku and TWEWY just aren't celebrities in the same way as Persona and Dragon Quest are; and while Kingdom Hearts and Sora I think would've been an amazing fit, they don't have a game coming to Switch this year. 

Additionally, if one rumour about the "Brave" character is correct, it's not so much "Erdrick" as it is "Dragon Quest heroes," with the DQXI protagonist and a DQX character also in the mix as alts; a slightly more interesting proposal.  We'll see what they do about the music.  Satisfying though it would be if they could cut Koichi Sugiyama out of the picture somehow, it seems unlikely that that's on the cards.

 

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