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5 hours ago, Blue Blood said:

Boy are you going to be disappointed.

I know it's unlikely but it wasn't a short delay. They could add additional characters outside of the main story.

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9 hours ago, Marcello said:

Haunted Rooftop Run? It'd be cool if they added the ghosts from Night of the Werehog in the background like Mother Wisp is on Planet Wisp.

Yes, Please. Let them be a stage hazard.

They could use jump scares to throw you off your game or try to blind racers with drive-by photography. Raa can just sit somewhere looking pretty.

Even if they just appeared in the BG I'd count it as a W. Love those guys.

4 hours ago, Stritix said:

I know it's unlikely but it wasn't a short delay. They could add additional characters outside of the main story.

Could they? Sure, but I think the customization trailer is really telling on why the roster is so small right now.

Putting in more characters would require not only building the assets for new characters, but an equivalent number of customization parts for whatever vehicle they bring with them - and most importantly - the need to balance all of that into the the competitive meta. That's a lot to chew.

I could see maybe two racers being included via DLC, but I could also see those costing extra money as compensation.

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20 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

Could they? Sure, but I think the customization trailer is really telling on why the roster is so small right now.

Putting in more characters would require not only building the assets for new characters, but an equivalent number of customization parts for whatever vehicle they bring with them - and most importantly - the need to balance all of that into the the competitive meta. That's a lot to chew.

I could see maybe two racers being included via DLC, but I could also see those costing extra money as compensation.

Cream, Espio, and Charmy would be enough to fill out the roster. Adding those characters as extras would remove the oddness of the current roster and fill it out.

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3 hours ago, Stritix said:

Cream, Espio, and Charmy would be enough to fill out the roster. Adding those characters as extras would remove the oddness of the current roster and fill it out.

There was apparently a stream where they confirmed no DLC. Oh well, at least we could be getting cameos or even a little appearance in the story for other characters.

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12 hours ago, Miragnarok said:

There was apparently a stream where they confirmed no DLC. Oh well, at least we could be getting cameos or even a little appearance in the story for other characters.

I wouldn't 100% say that it 'confirmed' no DLC.

 

All I heard Aaron say was "There was no news on if there was gonna be any extra content", which to me honestly says that he himself isn't completely confident on whether or not there will be.

He also said there was no news on a public demo for TSR, and while he doesn't believe there will be, he didn't disclose that possibility.

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As someone who never believed the game would get any DLC regardless, I can see why someone might not believe Aaron fully on what he says simply because he's a known liar when it comes to rumors and news.

He'll tell you a new All-Stars Racer isn't coming out and the next day TSR will be announced. He'll say a new cartoon isn't being made and then the Amy Christmas Special will happen.

I was almost tempted to say that DLC will now actually happen simply because Aaron said it wouldn't.

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Interesting. If Dark Arsenal really comes back, then Egg Hangar or Thunder Deck won't be far off either, which means at least 6 returning tracks. Now the question is just if the last of the Seaside/Casino/Eggman zones will be retro tracks as well. I don't mind too much since All-Stars released almost 10 years ago, but those three would stick out a lot compared to the new and more varied tropes.

Plus there's still that clip of Big going through a vortex on a space track, which has to be part of the Eggman zone. But not sure about the third Seaside Hill track and the third Casino one, which could be Starlight Carnival.

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On 4/4/2019 at 12:28 AM, tailsBOOM! said:

Though one has to question where the Final Egg remix comes into play.

Considering it seems Sonic Adventure's "Sand Hill" theme was used in a diffrent location here, it's possible Final Egg just gets tacked onto the Sonic Heroes tracks.

And considering the original Sonic and Sega all stars racing didn't have it's own remixes but just recycled the music from the original games, it's easy for them to slap on whatever new remix they want.

....Wait... In fact...

Well, whadya know, Final Egg was already used in the original rendition of the Eggfleet tracks.
The very song Team Sonic has a confirmed remix off. Well, what a coinkeydink.

I wonder if that means they'll also remix the other random music tracks that Turbine Loops/ Dark Arsenal etc. used.
Which means some serious Sonic Rush music love. Sweet.

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Yeah, I'm not going to beat around the bush about this one. They're bringing the Final Fortress back.

I'm more interested in seeing what the differences in tracks will be for it though. I probably wouldn't be expecting much, normally, but Thriller Spagonia really threw me for a loop so... I'm actually anticipating a little something.

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6 hours ago, Blue Blood said:

The Final Egg remix is is used for the garage, according to the Japanese soundtrack sample CD.

Admittedly, it does sound more like menu music.

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The background behind Cubot is Dark Arsenal, plus Roulette Road does not really count as a Transformed track so I don't find this too realistic.

In the best case scenario, we'll have Whale Lagoon/Ocean View, Bingo Party/Roulette Road and Dark Arsenal/(Egg Hangar or Thunder Deck) as returning tracks. The mystery space track from the Customization trailer has to be the third track in Casino Park/Final Fortress because there aren't any other zones left, so I guess there's a slight possibility Seaside 3 will be new as well. It's been quite a while since we've seen Final Fortress though, so I'm looking forward what they could make of Thunder Deck.

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21 hours ago, LukA8 said:

Plus there's still that clip of Big going through a vortex on a space track, which has to be part of the Eggman zone. But not sure about the third Seaside Hill track and the third Casino one, which could be Starlight Carnival.

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Actually, in the customization trailer, you can see the portal Big jumps in right behind King Boom Boo in Sandopolis/Death Pyramid so it's not a hint to another zone.

Edit: At least it looks like Boo's House is gonna be a really cool track. It has so much variety as seen from the trailers. We might also be getting Pumpkin Hill as the last track so strangely enough, the best zone will be the desert zone which is really unexpected.

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Oh wow you're right, didn't notice that at all, so the "space track" was just King Boo's illusion. Pumpkin Hill really may be the last new track, and the final line-up will look like this:

- Wisp Circuit, Doctor's Mine, Mother's Mountain

- Ice Mountain, Frozen Junkyard, Hidden Volcano

- Market Street, Haunted Castle, Sky Road-track

- Boo's House, Sand Road, Pumpkin Hill?

- Whale Lagoon, Ocean View, Lost Palace?

- Roulette Road, Bingo Party, Galactic Parade?

- Dark Arsenal, Thunder Deck?, Egg Hangar?

 

 

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7 hours ago, LukA8 said:

Oh wow you're right, didn't notice that at all, so the "space track" was just King Boo's illusion. Pumpkin Hill really may be the last new track, and the final line-up will look like this:

- Wisp Circuit, Doctor's Mine, Mother's Mountain

- Ice Mountain, Frozen Junkyard, Hidden Volcano

- Market Street, Haunted Castle, Sky Road-track

- Boo's House, Sand Road, Pumpkin Hill?

- Whale Lagoon, Ocean View, Lost Palace?

- Roulette Road, Bingo Party, Galactic Parade?

- Dark Arsenal, Thunder Deck?, Egg Hangar?

Any reason we think Dark Arsenal is confirmed ? If they're getting other all star racing tracks I'd rather they took Thunder Deck because that one actually takes place on the outside. If they're gonna re-use tracks for the last area I'm hoping for:

- Thunder Deck, Egg Hangar and a new track (maybe egg fleet or final rush ?)

As for the remaining tracks of seaside hill and the casino zone, I'm really hoping they're new tracks. In fact, I'm hoping the third seaside hill track is emerald coast or jungle joyride. It's kind of a stretch but the desert and ice zone show that they're willing to take different zones as tracks as long as they fit the same general area. Who knows ? We might get lucky. For the last casino track, galactic parade, Twinkle Park or Eggmanland would be cool but I won't hold my breath.

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1 hour ago, StellarBlur said:

Any reason we think Dark Arsenal is confirmed ? If they're getting other all star racing tracks I'd rather they took Thunder Deck because that one actually takes place on the outside. If they're gonna re-use tracks for the last area I'm hoping for:

Mostly due to how similar the background and structure behind Cubot looks to Dark Arsenal. You could argue it's only for the Adventure mode, but that's what everyone thought about Seaside Hill before it was revealed, plus that scenery is not part of any Planet Wisp track.

1 hour ago, StellarBlur said:

As for the remaining tracks of seaside hill and the casino zone, I'm really hoping they're new tracks. In fact, I'm hoping the third seaside hill track is emerald coast or jungle joyride. It's kind of a stretch but the desert and ice zone show that they're willing to take different zones as tracks as long as they fit the same general area. Who knows ? We might get lucky. For the last casino track, galactic parade, Twinkle Park or Eggmanland would be cool but I won't hold my breath.

As much as I'd want Twinkle Park or Emerald Coast in this, I feel they would have revealed those tracks over returning tracks like Whale Lagoon and Ocean View if they were in. I'm at least hoping for Galactic Parade since they specifically gave Casino Park a space theme this time, but we'll see.

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3 hours ago, LukA8 said:

Mostly due to how similar the background and structure behind Cubot looks to Dark Arsenal. You could argue it's only for the Adventure mode, but that's what everyone thought about Seaside Hill before it was revealed, plus that scenery is not part of any Planet Wisp track.

As much as I'd want Twinkle Park or Emerald Coast in this, I feel they would have revealed those tracks over returning tracks like Whale Lagoon and Ocean View if they were in. I'm at least hoping for Galactic Parade since they specifically gave Casino Park a space theme this time, but we'll see.

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I kind of agree with you but, at the same time, they're definitely holding some cards close to their chest. For example, they haven't revealed Pumpkin Hill even though that'd generate a lot of hype. I don't expect Emerald Coast or Twinkle Park but I'm still hoping.

Hmm, that screenshot does suspiciously look like Dark Arsenal indeed. Isn't it kind of weird to have planet wisp there ? Perhaps they re-used assets from Dark Arsenal in a portion of Doctor's mine we haven't seen yet. However, it's pretty likely that you're right. In that case, I'm hoping that we get Thunder Deck instead as that track is actually set in the cool part of Final Fortress. If they have to get another stage, I hope it's Egg Hangar for more variety and, finally, I hope the final stage is a new track like an actual Egg Fleet during the day where you go from ship to ship.

Now, let's look at Modern Sonic games representation in this game (only looking at confirmed stages):

Sonic Adventure : 1 track/1 zone - Sand Road
Sonic Adventure 2 : 2 tracks/2 zones - Boo's House/Pumpkin Hill (assuming that it's real)
Sonic Heroes : 5 tracks/3 zones - Whale Lagoon/Ocean View/Bingo Party/Roulette Road/ Whatever Final Fortress stage we get
Sonic 06 : 0
Sonic Unleashed : 3 tracks/1 zone - Market Street/Haunted Castle/Sky Stage
Sonic Colors : 3 tracks/1 zone - Wisp Circuit/Mother's Canyon/Doctor's Mine
Sonic Lost World: 0 - I would've taken Tropical Coast Act 3 if I needed to represent this tho.
Sonic Forces: 1 track/1 zone - Frozen Junkyard - I consider this stage Forces representation because of the Death Egg Robot

I don't feel like Ice Mountain or Hidden Volcano really represent any zone. Maybe Cool Edge and Ice Mountain ? Red Mountain and Lava Zone from LW ? Flame core ? The giant lava monster should have been Iblis or Ifrit from Secret Rings.

Anyways, Heroes has such a disproportional representation and it doesn't even have Hang Castle lol. That's not to say I don't love Heroes' zones... I do but the game representation should have been more even.

 

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Their concern definitely isn't game representation. Again, Whale Lagoon, Roulette Road, and Dark Arsenal were all in the original All-Stars Racing. They're just doing those stages again with the assets changed around and modified a bit. I'm not wondering if Final Fortress is in it. I'm wondering what the other two tracks for Final Fortress will be at this point. As far as I'm concerned, it's already a done deal.

The Eggman base is the only troupe that hasn't been covered and it's also the only track from the original All-Stars Racer we've yet to see. So there's not much point in holding it back aside from seeing what new thing they'll do to it.

 

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39 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Their concern definitely isn't game representation. Again, Whale Lagoon, Roulette Road, and Dark Arsenal were all in the original All-Stars Racing. They're just doing those stages again with the assets changed around and modified a bit. I'm not wondering if Final Fortress is in it. I'm wondering what the other two tracks for Final Fortress will be at this point. As far as I'm concerned, it's already a done deal.

The Eggman base is the only troupe that hasn't been covered and it's also the only track from the original All-Stars Racer we've yet to see. So there's not much point in holding it back aside from seeing what new thing they'll do to it.

You're right. Just hoping they'll add an Egg Fleet track as it's not too far off from Final Fortress. If they do DLC, they better not sell us past tracks again.

edit: While I sound pretty negative, I am still pretty hype for the game. They definitely are giving us as much fan service as they can within the constraint of their budget.

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1 hour ago, StellarBlur said:

You're right. Just hoping they'll add an Egg Fleet track as it's not too far off from Final Fortress. If they do DLC, they better not sell us past tracks again.

Dude, an Egg Fleet track is my dream. I typically love the aesthetic of the Final Fortress more, because I love dark and stormy areas, but the idea of recreating that moment where you start at the top of the Egg Fleet and you fall WAY THE FUCK DOWN...! I want that so badly.

I wanna feel like I'm driving my car off the top of an air craft and plummeting through the clouds towards a ship below. 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Dude, an Egg Fleet track is my dream. I typically love the aesthetic of the Final Fortress more, because I love dark and stormy areas, but the idea of recreating that moment where you start at the top of the Egg Fleet and you fall WAY THE FUCK DOWN...! I want that so badly.

I wanna feel like I'm driving my car off the top of an air craft and plummeting through the clouds towards a ship below. 

Yeah ! Imagine one of those tracks that doesn't have three laps but just keeps going until the end. It'd be awesome ! The one track I truly want is Night Palace from Secret Rings because that's such a cool aesthetic but it'll never happen.

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