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On June 9, 2018 at 8:54 PM, VEDJ-F said:

TSR wouldn't have that issue at least, it's just how strict Sonic Team want the team boundaries followed. 

This is what bothers me, since in previous racing games Amy was among the first characters to be announced, and ever since ST started to push this Sonic/Tails/Knuckles trio quite aggressively, I feel that Amy not being featured or announced yet comes as a direct result of it, along with this ridiculous fixation of grouping everyone in sets of three that will obviously exclude the one character that didn't appear on the Genesis trilogy.

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From the trailer it seems we’ll be driving over Spagonia. Nice to see human stuff back. Stuff Dissected honestly did not expect human world tracks in the game, nor did they expect anything based on past racers other than the ASR games. But that big “R” has to mean something. 

 

And also, every all-Sonic racer so far since Drift 2 has had new tracks not based on extant stages. Still curious as to whether it is the same here or not. 

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6 hours ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

I wonder if Babylon Rouges will be in the game.

Considering that they pretty much racing-exclusive, but also gear-riders, both options are kinda sad.

The roster is too tight for it. If we had 18 characters, I'd say they were a lock. They'd have to break the team dynamic to include them. Which I think is maybe possible, given I doubt Cream will be driving a car. Same with Charmy. I can maybe see Team Rose/Chaotix be two members each instead of three, and the third one gets replaced (Blaze for Rose and Silver for Chaotix if this kinda situation happened).

Jet could be possibly a standalone in this specific instance. But the odds don't seem to be in his favor.

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29 minutes ago, JaidynReiman said:

given I doubt Cream will be driving a car.

This line of thinking strikes me as odd, because why would driving a car be any "worse" than riding a hoverboard? Or messing with the fundamental properties of gravity while riding said hoverboard?

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1 hour ago, JaidynReiman said:

The roster is too tight for it. If we had 18 characters, I'd say they were a lock. They'd have to break the team dynamic to include them. Which I think is maybe possible, given I doubt Cream will be driving a car. Same with Charmy. I can maybe see Team Rose/Chaotix be two members each instead of three, and the third one gets replaced (Blaze for Rose and Silver for Chaotix if this kinda situation happened).

Jet could be possibly a standalone in this specific instance. But the odds don't seem to be in his favor.

I don't think the Babylon Rogues have a chance. Not even Jet. 

I'm only uncertain about Cream because I can see them going with Blaze and Silver over her since they're more popular. They've been light on using Cream for anything recently. 

It's got nothing to do with her driving a car. They don't care. Especially if her appearances in those Riders games are an indication. Unless... somehow hoverboards, despite being more dangerous and X-treme, are less permissible than a car. 

I can see Team Rose being interchangeable since that's kind of what Team Rose is. It's Amy Rose and... whoever decides to tag along with her that day.

Team Chaotix kind of isn't though. Either they're all there together or they're not in the game at all... or Vector is on Team Rose again, I guess. Team Chaotix is the one that's going to feel weird and random as fuck if anyone gets replaced. It's gonna feel like an obvious appeal to popularity if Silver was just shoved into Charmy's spot. No matter what the story said it'd just stick out like a sore thumb. I'm not even really saying this just because I'm a fan of the Chaotix either. Out of all the teams, they're the ones that make the least sense to mess around with. 

1 hour ago, Edward850 said:

This line of thinking strikes me as odd, because why would driving a car be any "worse" than riding a hoverboard? Or messing with the fundamental properties of gravity while riding said hoverboard?

We talked about this one or two pages back actually. And yeah, to reiterate, it doesn't matter.

Charmy was at the front lines of a war in Forces. Cream was riding hoverboards in all the Riders games. Tails is 8. That's technically older than Charmy and Cream but not by much.

Age is kind of a silly thing to be worried about with this series. 

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5 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

It's gonna feel like an obvious appeal to popularity if Silver was just shoved into Charmy's spot.

Only reason I feel like its even a slim possibility is because Silver has already teamed up with Espio in a past game.

 

I'm pretty much just assuming the roster is going to be Sonic Heroes + Eggman, Blaze, and Silver, really. I guess maybe with the possibility of Blaze replacing Cream and Metal Sonic also being present.

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4 minutes ago, JaidynReiman said:

Only reason I feel like its even a slim possibility is because Silver has already teamed up with Espio in a past game.

 

I'm pretty much just assuming the roster is going to be Sonic Heroes + Eggman, Blaze, and Silver, really. I guess maybe with the possibility of Blaze replacing Cream and Metal Sonic also being present.

Blaze could replace Cream or Big, actually. LEGO Dimensions and social media notwithstanding, they’re equally prominent nowadays.

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1 hour ago, JaidynReiman said:

Only reason I feel like its even a slim possibility is because Silver has already teamed up with Espio in a past game.

I'm pretty much just assuming the roster is going to be Sonic Heroes + Eggman, Blaze, and Silver, really. I guess maybe with the possibility of Blaze replacing Cream and Metal Sonic also being present.

Yeah, but that's a little different. A team up between two individual characters doesn't really matter much. I can see that being done with almost any of the characters really. Not only that but Rivals 2 is a little obscure. I doubt they even remember that Vector was on Team Rose in Free Riders. Recalling the team up Espio had with Silver sounds like an even bigger stretch for them. 

And yeah, I agree. I figured it'd just be the Sonic Heroes cast + Silver and Blaze. 

The Sonic Heroes cast being, Team Sonic, Team Dark, Team Rose, Team Chaotix, Eggman, and Metal Sonic.

That's only 14 characters and assuming the Egg Pawn is playable (Jury is still out on that), it'd be 15 to make up Team Eggman. 

I only speculate on what Team Rose will be. Silver and Blaze are more popular than Cream and Big for one, and two, both Cream and Big haven't been used much recently. 

So, I'm thinking The Team Rose of this game will be Amy, Blaze, and Silver. If it's the one from Heroes than I can imagine them doing what they did for the Riders games and just have Silver and Blaze be unlockable extras or DLC. I just can't see this game happening without those two... but I CAN see it happening without Cream and Big, sadly. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Yeah, but that's a little different. A team up between two individual characters doesn't really matter much. I can see that being done with almost any of the characters really. Not only that but Rivals 2 is a little obscure. I doubt they even remember that Vector was on Team Rose in Free Riders. Recalling the team up Espio had with Silver sounds like an even bigger stretch for them. 

And yeah, I agree. I figured it'd just be the Sonic Heroes cast + Silver and Blaze. 

The Sonic Heroes cast being, Team Sonic, Team Dark, Team Rose, Team Chaotix, Eggman, and Metal Sonic.

That's only 14 characters and assuming the Egg Pawn is playable (Jury is still out on that), it'd be 15 to make up Team Eggman. 

I only speculate on what Team Rose will be. Silver and Blaze are more popular than Cream and Big for one, and two, both Cream and Big haven't been used much recently. 

So, I'm thinking The Team Rose of this game will be Amy, Blaze, and Silver. If it's the one from Heroes than I can imagine them doing what they did for the Riders games and just have Silver and Blaze be unlockable extras or DLC. I just can't see this game happening without those two... but I CAN see it happening without Cream and Big, sadly. 

 

I can also see Tikal as the third Rose member, like in Runners. And maybe no playable bad guys, with the Babylons being available instead.

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1 hour ago, Miragnarok said:

I can also see Tikal as the third Rose member, like in Runners. And maybe no playable bad guys, with the Babylons being available instead.

I don't. Tikal is never a character I speculate on. I feel it's a bit of a waste of time doing so, personally.

 

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I can't see them taking out Team Rose just to add Blaze and Silver to it Amy, Cream and Big feel like friends having fun together both Blaze and Silver are far to serious for the team to not feel random I can't imagine them teaming up with Amy to perform a heart attack also Sumo is a fan of Big with him being in the first game. 

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On 2018年6月6日 at 11:10 PM, jgcatindig said:

So,  with teams Sonic and Dark already confirmed, we are left to speculate three more Teams,  also taking notice that the Egg Pawns are not characters. So here's my prediction /wishlist, in Speed, Tech,  Power format. . And without further adieu...

 

Starters

Team Rose :

Blaze, Cream, Amy

 

Team Chaotix :

Espio, Charmy,  Vector

 

Team Empire

Metal Sonic, Infinite,  Eggman

 

Unlockable

Team Rejectz

Silver, Sticks,  Big

 

Team Zeti

Zazz,  Zeena, Zavok

 

 

 

So, I should revert back Team Rose to the original one, and switch Blaze back to the newly-renamed Team Dimension?

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On 2018年6月9日 at 10:03 PM, jgcatindig said:

@Jango Yes! Finally who thinks like I do in these things! It certainly isn't called "Team Sonic Racing" for no reason! Any and all predictions we all make shall come in 3s.

 

I've made my predictions for the Starters and Unlockables, so here's my DLC wishlist/predictions.

 

PACK 1

Babylon Rogues

Jet, Wave, Storm

 

Team Mania

C. Sonic(in Drift car), Mighty, Ray

*Possibly add-on incentive for buying Mania Plus(i.e. get the Team free when you buy Mania Plus)

 

PACK 2

Freedom Racing

Antoine, Sally, Bunnie

 

Destructix Racing

Scourge, Fiona, Sgt. Simian

 

PACK 3

Team Human

Princess Elise,  Prof.  Pickle,  GUN Commander

or

Team Rookz

Violet,  Gadget,  Tangle

(pre-made Avatars) 

 

Team Evil Celestial

Mephiles,  Gemerl,  Chaos Zero

or

Team Ancient

Maria,  Gerald R., Tikal

 

SEGA Pack

 

Team 1

Danica Patrick(if available)/BD Joe,  Joe Musashi/Ulala,  Gilius Thunderhead

 

Team 2

Daytona/AiAi,  Beat/Ulala,  Ryo Hazuki/Ralph

*Both packs possibly the Pre-order DLC. 

 

@JangoStill optimistic  that those Pawns are just obstacles, not part of the count or unlockable too. The good doctor might enter two teams in that GP, one of those may be the Pawn Team, while the other ishis actual team, comprised of himself, Metal, and Infinite 

Really would like Pack 2 to happen. Sadly, we may need to eliminate THAT GUY WITH THE INITIALS KP. The Violet character in Team Rookz is a name I made up for the cat OC appearing in some promo materials and the comics. Taking suggestions for Team Human. Perhaps Sonic X humans? Plus Elise?

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If the Egg Pawns are generic AI opponents, I wonder if the different colours we've seen actually correspond to different types?  So in other words you could have a Speed, Technique, or Power Egg Pawn as recolours of one another.  That seems context-appropriate, assuming they aren't taking up one of the roster slots (though I could also see them being a highly customisable sixteenth character that can fill any role).

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I'm dissapointed in the Spagonia track.
Wouldn't it be more interesting to, I dunno, drive trough the Spagonia streets, crashing trough buildings, racing up the clocktower?
Rather then just drive on a generic flying rollercoaster track with a "member Spagonia?" backdrop disconnected from the race?
Reminds me why I disliked the levels in Smash Bros Brawl so much, no more fighting on top of rooftops or speeding cars, but in "disconnected platforms in the sky" levels with a random backdrop. Lame.
Hope that's just a part of the track and not the whole concept.

But yeah, one of my predictions disproven within 24 hours, ouch. Seems we might get a full Sonic Generations reunion after all. Yay.
Looking forward to how the GUN truck will interact with the racetrack.

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Age has nothing to do with who gets included or not in these titles, especially considering we’re talking about a cartoony bunch of anthropomorphic animals and a comically designed round human engineer & robot cronies as the center of it all.

 

Still hoping Big might at least return since I recall Sumo was fond of him in the first All-Stars racing? The whole Chaotix crew present and playable is something I’m still hoping for, along with maybe a Sonic Adventure track like Emerald Coast or Twinkle Park.

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I also want Team Rose to be Amy-Cream-Blaze because I think it's the best configuration and interaction, Big is a funny meme and all but he has nothing to do with Amy and Cream, he feels out of place.

I'm hoping Big makes it in a bonus team non story related with Silver and Sticks as pre-order DLC, that's my prediction.

And Infinite or Nack as third member of Team Eggman. 

Another DLC that would be cool is Classic Sonic-Ray-Mighty, since I'm expecting them to cross promote with Mania and Forces.

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A stage i'd like to see done is Angel Island, but not just Angel Island zone, a stage that passes through all (or most of) the zones from S3K, that would be cool to see,

and Kingdom Valley.

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Heh, a complete celebration medley of Angel island, with even Sonic Adventure, Advance and Advance 3 elements in there.
Probably too ambitious, but that would be cute.
I suppose the closest we can get to that is Lego Dimensions, altough they put Green Hill Zone, Checmial plant zone and aquitic ruin on the otherwise entirely Sonic 3 and Knuckles themed island.

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