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Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled (June 21st, 2019)


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24 minutes ago, Jango said:

I'd save the assumptions for later.

What assumptions? There's no denying that it lies within the game's code. There's no assumptions made there.

If you're trying to defend Activision and the game again, I don't get your angle.

24 minutes ago, Jango said:

At the very, very least the content CTR offers can be unlocked by playing the game

At the detriment of anyone who doesn't constantly play online. And if/when the nitro fill gauge mechanic gets activated, it'll also be at the detriment of anyone not buying up Wumpa coins with money.

24 minutes ago, Jango said:

The GP content is limited indeed, but there's arguibly more than enough time to unlock a healthy amount of itens as last season showed.

A good game would make it so that one can get all those items without having to make the game their part-time job.

Oh wait. Right. That's what the microtransactions are for. :U

Don't expect people to settle for less.

24 minutes ago, Jango said:

if your intention is to make a comparising. 

I have no idea what you just said.

If you're talking about the comparison I made, it ties into how both cases trivialize the weight and meaning of characters.

You of all people should know that people will be enticed to get characters they like despite them supposedly just being "cosmetic" as defenders have put it, and that the company at hand is abusing that.

34 minutes ago, Jango said:

Hopefully this will not affect leaderboards (perhaps it will only serve the purpose of unlocking the stuff in the Gauge, instead of rising the Nitro Points). But again, both options are assumptions right now. 

The best case in scenario is that they leave this mechanic dormant. Because either you listed it, they're being scummy as usual.

6 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

Supposedly, from what I’ve heard, this only works AFTER the season ends.

 

Mind you. Even if this turns out to be the case, then as stated before,  it's still a scummy practice. Only difference is the target will be shifted to people who clearly don't have the time, boundless perseverance, resources or internet to get it filled properly.

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Another thing, I checked the Reddit post @Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice linked and apparently, you can only get up to 42K Nitro points with Whumpa Coins, so depending on how far your Nitro meter is, you DEFINITELY won’t be able to fill it up and get everything this way. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

you can only get up to 42K Nitro points with Whumpa Coins, so depending on how far your Nitro meter is, you DEFINITELY won’t be able to fill it up and get everything this way. 

Actually, 42,000 is the end point of the nitro guage, so you would be able to get everything on the guage with it.

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4 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

Does anyone know the date these will go into play yet.

The MTX? No one knows, yet.The Nitro Point this? Supposedly after the GP ends.

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Speaking of this current GP. My god, I can't stand how they constantly pit getting coins against getting Nitro. Sure, sometimes they coincide, but eventually, you gotta pick one farming routine or the other.

IN terms of issues with this GP, the Relic Hoarder challenge is officially bugged.

That's right, if you get a platinum relic on a relic race, the game DOES NOT count that towards the challenge. Which means you purposefully have to get either gold or sapphire relic to complete the challenge. Which is a pain after already doing the relic race, mind you.

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59 minutes ago, Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice said:

There's no assumptions made there.

You can lie through your teeth all you want. You're assuming that the game will have the option to fill the Nitro Gauge with money just because there's a line in the game's code. Baby Cortex and Baby Tropy were also in game's code and people assumed they would be playable, which didn't happened. Feel free to quote me back if it happens tho', but right now? Yep, it's an assumption.

 

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MTX are here to stay. I agree it does seem odd they waited till after the game was out to add them. But the second I saw the lit shop I knew there had to be a buy coin option.  One of the first day items was like 5000 coins and went away that weekend.  Actually if you read the TOS they outline that since these are known items that you can't really call them loot boxes

Please don't make fun of me for my video as I know some may but around 3:30 I post pics of the tos they actually come out and use the word grind. I looked through it and only saw 3 pages dealing with them

 

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1 hour ago, Jango said:

You can lie through your teeth all you want. You're assuming that the game will have the option to fill the Nitro Gauge with money just because there's a line in the game's code.

 

2 hours ago, Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice said:

And if/when the nitro fill gauge mechanic gets activated

You're either lying or careless, considering you overlooked the fact that I never said with certainty that they would be activated. What I have stated is that it's there. No one's going to be surprised if they activate it, but it's there.

I don't know why you've resorted to trying to attack my character, but I'd rather you not resort to cheap tactics with misinformation. 

I get trying to defend the game, but that's ridiculously bad form and quite out-of-bounds to be doing that again.

52 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

I agree it does seem odd they waited till after the game was out to add them.

Meet Activision. They're shrewd enough to keep the transactions out just long enough for there to be swooning reviews and the initial sales in. Cue one month later when all that is past, and bam. Microtransactions. 

They're of the mindset that they have less to lose that way.

Kinda shows how much of a bad stigma on console gaming microtransactions are. To the point where corporations have to be this sneaky about it.

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20 minutes ago, Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice said:

 

You're either lying or careless, considering you overlooked the fact that I never said with certainty that they would be activated. What I have stated is that it's there. No one's going to be surprised if they activate it, but it's there.

I don't know why you've resorted to trying to attack my character, but I'd rather you not resort to cheap tactics with misinformation. 

I get trying to defend the game, but that's ridiculously bad form and quite out-of-bounds to be doing that again.

Meet Activision. They're shrewd enough to keep the transactions out just long enough for there to be swooning reviews and the initial sales in. Cue one month later when all that is past, and bam. Microtransactions. 

They're of the mindset that they have less to lose that way.

Kinda shows how much of a bad stigma on console gaming microtransactions are. To the point where corporations have to be this sneaky about it.

Yea pc I can't ever recall mtx in a game outside overwatch and Alex. Man I miss lfd2 servers before they went to the hounds

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1 hour ago, Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice said:

What I have stated is that it's there. 

Which is exactly like when I stated that earning Wumpa Coins the old fashioned way is also there. It's no different. But literally every single time me, @Son-icka, @Sonictrainer or other users, dare to mention that possibility, you would blatantly acuse us of defending the game, or the issues, or the company, or whatever the subject, when it was never what we meant in the first place. We didn't even denied the issues that can come with MTX. When we state something about the game, doesn't mean we are defending it. What you said above was also an statement of something that exists and it's there. If I wanted to play your part in the current scenario, I would simply quote you back and say "you're defending the dataminer" and end of the story. All I said is that we should take leaks with a pinch of salt before jumping to conclusions, especially because the same dataminers also made us assume Baby Cortex and Baby Tropy would be playable. 

BTW, I don't have anything against your character, I actually like you because I enjoy discussing here, but sometimes I feel like you hold something against me... I suspect if I come out and say "CTR sucks!" you'll somehow try to play that against me saying I'm defending the game again.

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Reached Gold Tier. The Mammoth kart which you need to unlock in order to complete a Themed Challenge is the second unlockable in the Gold Tier (which I should be unlocking soon). I'm currently saving up coins in order to unlock the other kart; Probulot 2000  (which costs 9,900 coins) in order to complete the aformentioned Themed Challenge. 

When I was playing an online race; Prehistoric Playground earlier this evening, one of the people I was racing against was a pro. He/she was playing as N. trophy, I was Baby Coco. Shortly after the race started I placed a breaker behind me and the pro-play hit the beaker, spun and then immediately accelerated away from me. Left me for dust and finished 10 seconds ahead (I finished 2nd). How the hell did they accelerate away from me so quickly? I damaged them with the beaker, it should have taken them a second or two to get going again. I'm the one who should have been able to pull away. Urghhhh...feels like they cheated.

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Yeah... I have to admit even though I unintentionally called it, the Nitro Micro just seemed like an obvious route if coins are concerned, even if you are not paying directly for Nitro like you will Wumpa coins. 

At least it’s just a way to fill the gauge if you don’t intend on playing or competing in the GP tour. And let’s not forget the items will be available to purchase in the Pit-Stop later as well. So that’s 3 options, play to win, pay to win, or pay/play to earn the items at a later date.

So, literally a half/half deal there between play and pay. Which seems like a fair deal if someone chooses to pay instead of play.

ANYWAY, Whatever the cost is for the nitro, what you will be getting for 42,000 Nitro points is 18 items, and judging from this and the last GP it will be:

- 2 Karts (10,000 Coins)

- 1 New Character (1500 Coins)

- 2 Legendary Driver Skin sets (5000 coins)

- 2 Exotic Colour sets (1500 coins)

- 2 Exotic Wheels sets (1500 coins)

- 2 Basic Stickers (500 coins)

- 1 Exotic Sticker (500 coins)

- 2 Legendary Stickers (750 coins)

- 2 Basic Decals (1000 coins)

- 1 Exotic Decal (750 coins)

- 1 Legendary Decal (1000 coins) 

**Apologies it I have calculated the coinage incorrectly - all item values are fairly easy to work out apart from karts which appear to differ in value depending on the vehicle and specialist type... so for approximation sake we’ll say they are 5000 coins**

Anyway that’s... what... about 24,000 Wumpa coins required for 42,000 Nitro? 

Unless they let you buy levels of Nitro they may as well release this as packs on the shop instead for tiers 1, 2 & 3. Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is how it comes to the shop later down the road.

Now, all we need to know is what they are charging for coins to determine Activision's greed level. So perhaps we should save any further grumbling until we like, actually know what they will decide the real currency charge will be for purchasing coins.

Or from experience, if anybody knows the going rates Activision prices these things in other games, what is it they usually charge for the Wumpa Coin equivalent or pack tiers? 

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6 hours ago, Jango said:

You can lie through your teeth all you want. You're assuming that the game will have the option to fill the Nitro Gauge with money just because there's a line in the game's code. Baby Cortex and Baby Tropy were also in game's code and people assumed they would be playable, which didn't happened. Feel free to quote me back if it happens tho', but right now? Yep, it's an assumption.

 

Learn to phrase your posts properly. Counter the actual discussion point and nothing more. Don't throw out petty insults in a vain attempt at defense.

 

8 hours ago, Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice said:

If you're trying to defend Activision and the game again, I don't get your angle.

Leave out the direct comments that only serve to egg people on.

 

If this continues, warnings well be dealt.

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10 minutes ago, Strickerx5 said:

Leave out the direct comments that only serve to egg people on.

Not my intention, but I can understand how the wording would come off as such. My apologies. 

I'll stick to the debated points. 

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Also, itens from the last GP started showing up at the Pit Stop. Pretty sure the "white, red and blue" paintjob was from the Nitro Tour GP.

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10 minutes ago, Jango said:

Also, itens from the last GP started showing up at the Pit Stop. Pretty sure the "white, red and blue" paintjob was from the Nitro Tour GP.

You’re right. The colour schemes were part of the Flags of the World Sticker Packs in the last GP. So at least we can get these cheaper now, especially if we don’t want the associated flag. 

I just bought a Blue, Red, and White pack (as it looked like a Mario type kart colour) and I was initially confused because the pack was still on the shop after purchase... until I realised the replacement colour pack was just inverted as Red, Blue and White. XD

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So I just though that's neat:

People suggested that jumping on it could unlock something, it totally should! Secrets like this were my favorites. I'm still curious about that chicken mural/wall in world 2.

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Prices are in, for New Zealand.

I'll be staying the heck away from this as I intended from the beginning. Already bought the BttF kart bundle anyways, which took me only a couple of hours of grind.

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How long does the daily bonus last? I thought it was supposed to be about 30 minutes, but today it definitely lasted longer (I was on fire today. Played about 13 races - won eight and finshed 2nd about four times...and one 8th place, heh).

Nearly saved up enough coins to get the Crash Scienist/Probulot 2000 bundle.

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6 hours ago, Jango said:

Prices are in, for New Zealand.

I'll be staying the heck away from this as I intended from the beginning. Already bought the BttF kart bundle anyways, which took me only a couple of hours of grind.

Whoa, so for 11,000 coins (I hate the way they advertise these things like it’s an exclusive deal) we’re looking at: £8.49 (GBP) or $10.30 (USD) 

For both regions realistically that will be likely be adjusted to (£/$) 9.99. That’s how much the BTTF pack basically is. For a skin, a kart, and 2 decals was it?

That’s not N’sane, that insane. 

So... if my calculations are correct from above with purchasing nitro with Wumpa coins - if you want to buy your way through each GP we are looking at this costing about (£/$) 20.00 - 24.99 each time. Wha...?

I mean, at least we don’t have to do this - but it won’t stop people from paying well over the odds of what they should for cosmetics. It’s not like you’re even paying for a track like it’s part of the deal or a season pass, as that’s released for FREE each GP season with an update anyway.

53 minutes ago, TheOcelot said:

How long does the daily bonus last? I thought it was supposed to be about 30 minutes...

 

45 minutes ago, Your Vest Friend said:

I find it's like an hour of real time gameplay roughly, lobby waits included. 

This. Unless they changed the stipulations, it’s only real time spent racing on the tracks that is counted towards those 30 minutes. So depending on the track you choose you could play a good 10-15 races online for over an hour reaping in the coins. It’s the only non-stingy thing they’ve kept going (so far). 

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