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So if Zippo can make highly detailed speculations, so should we, I mean, why not?

Here is my general idea of what we're getting, based on mere assumptions of course, going from leaked stuff to basic common sense.

> Sonic Colors Ultimate: It makes sense that it is its own thing, a big project maybe? Considering there is apparently a limited edition to it, I don't think there is a collection, I genuinely don't because this sounds like a standalone project.

What I would like in it? The name "Ultimate" implies more content, I would keep the base game intact, maybe only the acts should be longer and merged into 3 max, instead of 6.

I would like to see GameLand remade, in a Generations style fashion, with more assets and graphics from older iconic Sonic zones, not necessarily Green Hill but you know it's gonna happen, among others. Then I would like a new mini-story featuring Sonic and Tails, both playable maybe in a co-op or via different stages, a new grand zone, a bit harder to play since Colors is very easy. This new zone/story would include the DS wisps like Burst and Void, plus it would end with Nega Mother Wisp boss vs Super Sonic, of course. I would also include Online play for GameLand.

> Sonic Generations Deluxe (or whatever the name is): Unlike Colors, this game was for a lot of consoles, but it's still a bit old and dated now, it's not on current consoles, so yes, another remaster is possible, after all the url address for Sonic Colors Ultimate said "Sonic Generations", they are both really liked games and it makes sense to re-release them now, they would be sold separately IMO, and there could be a bundle with both of them. 

Content... I would say a new zone or maybe a new era, with the 3DS zones, Casino Night would be a full fledged zone like on 3DS and not like the pinball DLC minigame, with Ray as a cameo, Mushroom Hill with ??? as a cameo, and Emerald Coast with Big as a cameo character (he was planned for Generations but scrapped, his voice actor was credited). Maybe let us play as 2 more characters in the game, I would pick Mighty for Classic stages, and Metal Sonic OR Shadow for Modern stages, Metal Sonic is a better choice because his modern self is strangely absent from the game.

> Sonic 1 + Sonic 2 remastered versions: the ones from mobile devices, but this time on PC and consoles, simply that. I don't think there will be any collection, and it wouldn't make much sense to have these classics bought along with Colors and Generations

Also Unleashed gets ignored, sadly, but I can see them doing that because the game wasn't that well received, I would like to try it eventually, I never played it outside of the Wii version, but okay, if they did re-release it, I assume they might include the DLC from the original version, with no new content because that was enough. But with Colors called "Ultimate" maybe SEGA will think that is enough, so I doubt Unleashed will get remastered too.

New Mario & Sonic Winter Olympic Games? No idea, I can see them scrapping them altogether for 2 reasons:

- There are currently no real life Olympics, who knows until when they will get delayed.

- They pretty much have done everything they could with this series, they don't even sell that much anymore. People lost interest in this series because they want a proper Mario/Sonic crossover with no Olympic middle ground.

A 2D game? Who knows, could happen but I don't see any evidence in this, but if it's an external project not developed by SEGA directly... not sure, I could see it, but there is literally no evidence for this.

Now, for the Main course...

> 3D Sonic game (big one): it is in development and you know it, whenever it releases... when it's ready, I don't care honestly, I just want something this year, if this one is not ready, then have it release later. But it does exist, of course it does, Iizuka confirmed they started development of a new game in 2019. Don't worry, we are getting a big game eventually.

My personal assumption is it will be not boost styled at least. Boost is not the focus anymore, no one liked in Forces and SEGA is very reactive and scared of fan feedback. The Avatar and Classic Sonic will not be back, probably, because everyone especially hated Classic Sonic in Forces, and critiqued the idea of them being playable instead of the Modern cast like Tails/Knuckles/etc. so I would expect those playable here instead.

If the boost returns it will be as an unlockable move, I think. Not as a main gameplay gimmick that designs the stages by itself basically. If IDW and Prime are of any indication for the story, we might get a more serious tone and a more story-heavy game.

What else? I would definitely not rule out 2D sections in this game.

Chao Gardens will be back, easy to guess after all the promotion Chao got recently. So maybe more Adventure elements in general but I would not call it an "Adventure sequel/remake/SA3" or even "Adventure-something". It's a new game inspired by Adventure maybe?

Spin-offs:

> TSR sequel/a new Sonic Racing:

Okay my take on this: TSR sold very well, not as much as the competition like CTR remake but well, so SEGA will definitely want to cash on that. IMO the team gimmick was cool but it's not something you want to overdo forever, it may be back but not as a focus, I would personally rather have a solo racing experience first, less limited by team gameplay, and then you can bring back the team mechanics too as additional mode.

Plus, remember fans really wanted more content in TSR because it was tame and low budget, there wasn't much, DLC didn't happen. What better way of having more content? A sequel or brand new racing game, of course!

So, what do we add here? Since SEGA is so scared and reactive (which I already said but I repeat) of fan and critics reaction, maybe the feedback will lead us to where a sequel might be going. I think... Sonic fans wanted more obscure characters in it, SEGA fans wanted their SEGA content, at least a bit. So the ideal would be? Both! 

A Sonic game with a full Sonic Roster plus some SEGA content, think of it like Riders.

So my take is add to the TSR roster, Cream who was the most requested, Espio and Charmy hopefully, Jet and Wave for Riders reference, Tangle and Whisper because they are super popular, Zazz because why not another villain (he's recurring by the way).

I would love if they did Classic skins for the six retro characters, you could play as both the Classic and Modern version, it's a spinoff so it would be harmless to have both modern and classic characters, heck I would add Mighty and Ray and even Fang.

As for SEGA cast, not much, you know, they actually aren't really relevant, so I would keep those who got new games recently or are still beloved:

AiAi, Joker, Beat, Arle, Alex Kidd and NiGHTS (who apparently was also supposed to get a new game, not sure what happened with that trademark).

We also need more tracks, 16 new ones shouldn't be too much of a stretch, plus 16 old ones from ASR and TSR combined, they can bring back some of the old SEGA tracks if they include SEGA characters.

And that's it. That is the game content I believe we may get in the future, between 2021 and 2022 probably. I say this because SEGA will cash - actually screw that, they better cash in on the movies popularity, so now is the perfect time to release a lot of new games. Sonic is very hot and popular right now.

I wasn't sure if this warranted its own topic or not, so if mods want it merged with the 30th predictions, just do it, I thought it was very long so I didn't want to take the whole page and made a new one entirely.

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1 hour ago, Jack-al said:

> 3D Sonic game (big one): it is in development and you know it, whenever it releases... when it's ready, I don't care honestly, I just want something this year, if this one is not ready, then have it release later. But it does exist, of course it does, Iizuka confirmed they started development of a new game in 2019. Don't worry, we are getting a big game eventually.

I really hope from the bottom of my heart that you are right on this one.

If i find out that we have been waiting for the past 4 years only to receive a Sonic Colors Remake and no new mainline sonic games i would be extremely pissed off at SEGA, i mean i already am, but i'm holding out hope that their learned their lessons from Forces.

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I doubt we're getting a rerelease of Generations anytime soon. Rereleasing it this year would risk it competing for sales with Colors, and both games under performing as a result. They could of course release them as a collection, but releasing them separately a couple of years apart would theoretically allow them to make twice as many sales.

As for what the next major Sonic game is... we're kind of in uncharted waters here. Sega's management of the series has been highly reactionary since at least Heroes, and it's a problem that has only grown worse over time. While it's usually pointed out when they run screaming from any failure - most notably the death of the Adventure formula following Sonic '06 - they do try to repeat what successes they have. Classic Sonic's presence in Forces is an attempt to repeat the success of Generations, for example.

So what is Sega to do in the wake of Sonic Mania, one of the series biggest successes, and Sonic Forces, one of it's biggest failures? There has been much consternation in the fanbase about Classic Sonic's presence in Forces... but it was also the Classic Sonic title that everyone loved. Why would Sega run away from something successful? Further complicating matters is that Sonic Forces apparently was a commercial success, if Sega's own statements are to be trusted.

So, my guess as to what we're getting: Colors Ultimate sometime in the Summer, some sort of Mania followup as the big holiday season title, and Sonic Boost 5 next year. They'll finally do what they should and allow the classic and modern series exist in parallel, similar to the New Super Mario Bros. and 3D Mario titles.

(The Whitehead versions of Sonic 1 and 2 getting ported to more platforms would also be nice.)

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