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Well, considering Paramount will want this to be their next Transformers, I can see them being more lenient on budget, but even still, they're in no position to be spending big.

At the most we may get $150 million, to put it under Transformers and around TMNT. And even then, they will still want to be conservative with how these sets evolve for this 2nd movie. If there's big spending to be involved, it will balloon for a 3rd movie.

The biggest thing Paramount is gonna want to market will be any new characters that show up, and the scaling up of any machine Robotnik builds. But they're going to be conservative in what they pull from Sonic because you can't get as big of a buzz without a new character to show. And if they want this to be a franchise, they'll definitely be holding back.

Expect way more true to game robots for Robotnik, anything that looks like a kid would want to play with it or an adult to collect.

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But there is a new character: Tails. 

I hear a lot of people go: put Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Big, Omega, Blaze, Silver etc... 

We have yet to see Tails, he was barely a cameo lol

 

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18 hours ago, Leebo4 said:

Some would say the first sonic game wouldn’t have enough story for a movie and yet it did well, woudl prefer they give focus to sonic and tails developing their friendship 

I feel like you can do that with knuckles in the mix. Knuckles ain't gonna be on screen all the time, theres gonna be a lot of moments for sonic and tails to figure each other out. To help and plan.

 

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2 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

I feel like you can do that with knuckles in the mix. Knuckles ain't gonna be on screen all the time, theres gonna be a lot of moments for sonic and tails to figure each other out. To help and plan.

 

There also needs to be time for the main villain like robotnik and I don’t think there is enough time in the sequel unless he spends the movie as Robotnik’s minion like in the 3rd game

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There’s really not enough time to be focusing on Sonic and Tails, Tom and Maddie (along with their own relationship with Sonic and Tails) and Robotnik development with properly becoming Eggman as well as throwing Knuckles into the mix in any meaningful and satisfactory way and will leave fans disappointed. They’ve also said before that they don’t want to throw too many characters in and that they will ‘get to’ the other characters further down the line. If the first film is anything to go by they will do these characters justice, just be patient and let them get there at a steady pace. 

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2 hours ago, caitash said:

There’s really not enough time to be focusing on Sonic and Tails, Tom and Maddie (along with their own relationship with Sonic and Tails) and Robotnik development with properly becoming Eggman as well as throwing Knuckles into the mix in any meaningful and satisfactory way and will leave fans disappointed. They’ve also said before that they don’t want to throw too many characters in and that they will ‘get to’ the other characters further down the line. If the first film is anything to go by they will do these characters justice, just be patient and let them get there at a steady pace. 

I agree with this.  They shouldn't have to put in so many characters into one movie.  I've seen around the boards of people wanting to have Shadow, Silver, Rogue, Amy, and so many other characters to show up in the sequel.  But the thing is, there's only so much you can do when focusing on so many characters in one film.  Also, who knows how long the sequel will be?  The first movie was only 90 minutes long, which might explain why they couldn't focus on characters like Longclaw or the rest of the citizens from Green Hills.  If the sequel is a bit longer in runtime, it's possible they could add more characters besides Tails.  But, the important thing here is to make sure each character gets some much needed development, even if it takes like 17 films to do so.

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If there's any time to address the Echidna's and what they're doing, I think it can be hinted at in the background of the second movie. A lot hinges really on what Tails wants Sonic to do:

  • Will Sonic need to deal with the Echidnas and fulfill some prophecy?
  • Is this a rescue mission for Longclaw?
  • Is this some smaller threat that relates to the Echidnas?

Then there comes the response:

  • Does Sonic delay going back because he's grown accustomed to Earth, and afraid of leaving his family behind?
  • Does he jump in excitement for the idea of adventure?

I feel like the first response is more likely. We're still not yet at the more independent Sonic from the games, and Tom and Maddie are essentially his new adoptive parents. To ask him to just leave them behind like that would be unrealistic to how they've set up Sonic in the first movie. Hell, Sonic may be just generally reluctant to hang with Tails immediately just because he's some stranger who showed up to take him away.

A lot will come down to this whole thing. When these points are established, I feel like the movie will just fall into place because the other pieces can be more or less fit into it. We know Robotnik is coming back to earth and he's going to have a huge bone to pick with our little boy blue.

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12 hours ago, VisionaryofSUPER said:

If there's any time to address the Echidna's and what they're doing, I think it can be hinted at in the background of the second movie. A lot hinges really on what Tails wants Sonic to do:

  • Will Sonic need to deal with the Echidnas and fulfill some prophecy?
  • Is this a rescue mission for Longclaw?
  • Is this some smaller threat that relates to the Echidnas?

Then there comes the response:

  • Does Sonic delay going back because he's grown accustomed to Earth, and afraid of leaving his family behind?
  • Does he jump in excitement for the idea of adventure?

I feel like the first response is more likely. We're still not yet at the more independent Sonic from the games, and Tom and Maddie are essentially his new adoptive parents. To ask him to just leave them behind like that would be unrealistic to how they've set up Sonic in the first movie. Hell, Sonic may be just generally reluctant to hang with Tails immediately just because he's some stranger who showed up to take him away.

A lot will come down to this whole thing. When these points are established, I feel like the movie will just fall into place because the other pieces can be more or less fit into it. We know Robotnik is coming back to earth and he's going to have a huge bone to pick with our little boy blue.

If the sequel does have the echidnas I hope Pachacamac and Tikal are still alive in this universe. As I said in the other Sonic movie thread, I think a good idea is to make Pachacamac the father of Knuckles in this continuity, as his paranoia and warmongering can shape Knuckles into being antagonistic towards Sonic before he inevitably sees the error of his ways.

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21 hours ago, VisionaryofSUPER said:

If there's any time to address the Echidna's and what they're doing, I think it can be hinted at in the background of the second movie. A lot hinges really on what Tails wants Sonic to do:

  • Will Sonic need to deal with the Echidnas and fulfill some prophecy?
  • Is this a rescue mission for Longclaw?
  • Is this some smaller threat that relates to the Echidnas?

Then there comes the response:

  • Does Sonic delay going back because he's grown accustomed to Earth, and afraid of leaving his family behind?
  • Does he jump in excitement for the idea of adventure?

I feel like the first response is more likely. We're still not yet at the more independent Sonic from the games, and Tom and Maddie are essentially his new adoptive parents. To ask him to just leave them behind like that would be unrealistic to how they've set up Sonic in the first movie. Hell, Sonic may be just generally reluctant to hang with Tails immediately just because he's some stranger who showed up to take him away.

A lot will come down to this whole thing. When these points are established, I feel like the movie will just fall into place because the other pieces can be more or less fit into it. We know Robotnik is coming back to earth and he's going to have a huge bone to pick with our little boy blue.

I hope that this is what happens in the sequel.  I would love to see Sonic become conflicted about whether or not he should return to his home world or stay with Tom and Maddie.  It would create some great emotional tension for the film and it would make more sense for Sonic to not get along with Tails at first because of this.  I guess we'll see where they take the sequel.

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On 5/29/2020 at 1:09 AM, Indigo Rush said:

It's actually happening! 

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https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/05/sonic-the-hedgehog-sequel-is-in-development/

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-sequel-1234619356/

After the huge roller coaster leading up to the first film, it's so surreal to see that a sequel is actually in the works. Tails is certainly a shoe-in, but I wonder if they'll try to rope Knuckles and Amy into the narrative? Do you think Jim Carrey will reprise his role as Eggman?

Guess this can be the thread for Sonic the Hedgehog: 2 Fast 2 Foxy!

Sonic & Tails adventures in the big screen. Yeah this is happening!

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You know, I could see the sequel taking place in Las Vegas which Casino Night was inspired.:

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Also, I think this is the perfect title for the sequel.:

 

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Sonic: Rise of Eggman

Sonic 2: Gotta go Faster

Sonic: Secret of Angel Island

Chaos: Legend of Sonic

 

 

 

 

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I havn't gotten around to watching the first movie yet, but I have read the plot synopsis. I am happy for the movie's success and the fact that a sequel is happening. If you ask me, I feel like what is going to happen is this:

Sonic & Tails & James Marsden work together as a new team, with Sonic and Tails building their bond. Tails is used as an exposition device to basically explain everything that happened while Sonic was absent.

The Echidna tribe is brought back and are essentially the central antagonists. The head of the Echidna tribe is the secondary villian after Eggman, with Knuckles starting the movie as on their side but eventually is swayed to Sonic's side. Perhaps the movie ends with Knuckles exiled from the Echidna clan and has to hang out with Sonic and Tails.

Eggman comes back who comes back to muddle everything up between Sonic and the Echidnas. Brings Metal Sonic along for the ride.

Would be awesome to see some deep cuts, Angel Island, the introduction of the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald. Bringing Tikal in would be fantastic if you ask me, there is a character who needs more love.

I almost guarntee that Tails will get a new celebrity voice actor. Probably someone like Tom Holland I would bet, a youngish male celebrity. It is going to be a bit odd, it will sound like Tails will of hit puberty inbetween films. I bet someone like Dwayne Johnson for Knuckles.

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I'm guessing Metal Sonic could make a debut in this movie. Sonic 2 (and Sonic CD which was originally made with the intention of being Sonic 2) were the movies that introduced the concept in the first place, so it'd be appropriate to let him have his movie debut. Robotnik's still got that Sonic quill and other than powering up his machinery (as well as possibly serving as a basis of experimenting on other animals?), it could end up being a framework for his design. Gotta bring heavier artillery for the next round after all. Metal and Robotnik as an adversary would be appropriate if we're not getting Knuckles for a bit.

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13 hours ago, CaptainRobo said:

You know, I could see the sequel taking place in Las Vegas which Casino Night was inspired.:

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I could see Sonic & Tails visiting Las Vegas in the sequel. I mean Tails has a history with counting cards according to Team Sonic Racing. XD

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15 hours ago, CaptainRobo said:

You know, I could see the sequel taking place in Las Vegas which Casino Night was inspired.:

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Oooh! That's a creative title for a sequel!

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What if the opening of the movie is Sonic being attacked by Eggman in a giant drill mech in that small town near San Francisco named Emerald Hills?

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1 hour ago, Maxtiis said:

What if the opening of the movie is Sonic being attacked by Eggman in a giant drill mech in that small town near San Francisco named Emerald Hills?

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We've already seen a Hill Top road sign. Maybe there too?

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On 6/2/2020 at 6:15 AM, Maxtiis said:

What if the opening of the movie is Sonic being attacked by Eggman in a giant drill mech in that small town near San Francisco named Emerald Hills?

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That would be interesting, if Eggman does get back to Earth in the sequel.

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If they were setting up for a real long game here, the second movie could inform us of the existence of G.U.N and their role in the human world as a sort of hint of things to come.

Another thing to tackle will be how Eggman does make his entrance in the sequel, will he come through a ring, or will he make his way back using a spaceship he builds (perhaps the Death Egg?)

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10 hours ago, VisionaryofSUPER said:

If they were setting up for a real long game here, the second movie could inform us of the existence of G.U.N and their role in the human world as a sort of hint of things to come.

Another thing to tackle will be how Eggman does make his entrance in the sequel, will he come through a ring, or will he make his way back using a spaceship he builds (perhaps the Death Egg?)

If gun really does exist in this unvierse then why didn’t they appear in the first movie

i like gun but it’s something to consider

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I find lack of G.U.N. funny since I have 2 fighting thoughts, both starting with "obviously":

1) OBVIOUSLY they should put GUN in. Why wouldn't you reference SA2, best Sonic game about human-mobian interaction? If you're planning Shadow, you might as well put them.
Besides, all they had to do was make dozen picture of GUN logo and slap it on several military equipment.  Whole thing would cost less that Robotnik's glasses. Or even his latte, if they use cheap material.

2) OBVIOUSLY they didn't put GUN in. Even Knuckles isn't in the movie and you want to reference some obscure military group? And why would you ever remind people of Shadow the Game, worst Sonic game about human-mobian interaction maybe after 06?
And it's not like this cameo would improve sales or reviews. Waste of time, money and brain power.

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They had a truck and didn't put the GUN truck chase sequence. I mean, it's clear they are NOT interested in Adventure elements and nostalgia in these first movies at least, they are focusing on Classic, Green Hill, Mushroom Hill, I know I know... we have the SA1 echidna tribe, I feel like it's because they want to introduce Knuckles? Yeah, it's a set up for Knuckles, I think they want to stick with a classic trilogy adaptation, or at least more classic elements, but they use modern designs... 'cause they are more iconic, maybe.

Mostly because I read that the writers and director only played the classics in the '90s. After that they kinda lost Sonic.

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I couldn't be happier to hear this.

I'm not going to try and guess what's in it but as long as they put the same effort as before It'll be just as magic.

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