News The Manhog is in Rescue Rangers! "HE'S BAAAAAACCCCKKKK!!!"

[caitash]

I’m watching it tomorrow morning when it’s available, I always liked Rescue Rangers anyway so it won’t all be lost whether the Manhog is in it or not XD

[The Tenth Doctor]

Here he is. Every scene. Its pitched down for some reason.

 

Yeah, we did burn the place down.

[ZERO_ninja]

52 minutes ago, The Tenth Doctor said:

Here he is. Every scene. Its pitched down for some reason.

 

Yeah, we did burn the place down.

Thank you for this! Normally I wouldn't watch something like this without seeing the film but... nah I didn't want to see the film. Now I got to watch all I was interested in.

 

(Incidentally did nothing to change my impression of how the film looks.)

[caitash]

Okay I was deeply uncomfortable watching this XD I’m glad we did not get Ugly Sonic in our original Sonic movie XDDD

[DaBigJ]

Holy shit.

Just.

Holy shit.

[VO.SUPER]

Yeesh. He looks like quite the bootleg. 

[Johnny Boy]

I just watched the movie and it was really good! It’s pretty much the spiritual successor to Roger Rabbit. But good lord Sonic was pure nightmare fuel in this movie, which makes me even happier that we successfully cyber bullied Paramount into changing the design.

[DaBigJ]

Interesting thing to note 

People are going all "Oh oh! LaWsUiT?" When the most likely thing is that they either forgot or that SEGA doesn't want to be associated with this mess of a design.

Plus, it's technically a parody too.

[Sega DogTagz]

There was a part of me that kinda wanted to see how the original design would have looked if they finished the movie with it. 

I mean it would have been bad sure, but curiosity gets the better of me sometimes. 

 

That part of me is now dead. Sheesh. Yikes. Wow. Nothing about that design Is appealing. 

 

Looks like it works well for this movie thou. Can't complain with how they used the character. The go fast joke made me laugh. 

[ZERO_ninja]

3 minutes ago, Jake_LeOFFICIAL said:

People are going all "Oh oh! LaWsUiT?" When the most likely thing is that they either forgot or that SEGA doesn't want to be associated with this mess of a design.

Plus, it's technically a parody too.

The design is altered a little. things exaggerated here and there to make it look worse than it actually ever really did, but that is possibly just enough alterations to argue it being a separate entity legally combined with the fact that it was an unused design. it's not a visual design Paramount or SEGA are trying to profit from.

 

it could probably still be challenged but it'd be extremely costly for both companies to do so, plus as already pointed out it is for parody purposes which also affects copyright cases.

 

It's possible no one will care enough to really challenge. I think SEGA would possibly be more motivated than Paramount but also the one less likely to do anything due to the cost of taking Disney to court.

[DaBigJ]

10 minutes ago, ZERO_ninja said:

The design is altered a little. things exaggerated here and there to make it look worse than it actually ever really did, but that is possibly just enough alterations to argue it being a separate entity legally combined with the fact that it was an unused design. it's not a visual design Paramount or SEGA are trying to profit from.

 

it could probably still be challenged but it'd be extremely costly for both companies to do so, plus as already pointed out it is for parody purposes which also affects copyright cases.

 

It's possible no one will care enough to really challenge. I think SEGA would possibly be more motivated than Paramount but also the one less likely to do anything due to the cost of taking Disney to court.

Yeah, all of this is true, but you're also forgetting that Disney wouldn't just bootleg a design like this. They're scumbags, but they're not that dumb.

The most likely outcome is that SEGA and Paramount most likely unironically asked for no credits, because...well, why would you want to be credited for this design?

[Polkadi~☆]

14 minutes ago, Sega DogTagz said:

Looks like it works well for this movie thou. Can't complain with how they used the character. The go fast joke made me laugh. 

On that note, Ugly Sonic is very explicitly mentioned as being totally separate from Sonic as we know him, so Sonic still has his dignity.

Can't say the same for Ugly Sonic, he was born without dignity.

[ZERO_ninja]

5 minutes ago, Jake_LeOFFICIAL said:

Yeah, all of this is true, but you're also forgetting that Disney wouldn't just bootleg a design like this. They're scumbags, but they're not that dumb.

To be honest, I assumed it was just very likely Disney's lawyers said "it's visually distinct enough to not get sued".

My aunt used to work in a costume shop, and I remember they'd sell things such as what as obviously a Captain Jack Sparrow outfit without needing to officially license it because they'd change the buttons or something. Something silly like that you barely notice enough to dodge copyright in the right set of circumstances.

 

But your alternative is also possible.

[DaBigJ]

It could be either, but my alt is what I'm leaning towards because...

Spoiler

YEAH.

On a different note, love these two images, they're so...weird lol

 

[VO.SUPER]

I can see why Paramount or SEGA would be ok with it. It's parodying a bad idea that they rectified, so it just makes the current direction of the movie franchise look better. And of course, they don't want credit for it. 

[Indigo Rush]

Even assuming they weren't legally correct to use this rendition of Sonic, I can't imagine suing Disney being an easy thing to do. 

[Johnny Boy]

This person is probably reaching here but:

 

[DaBigJ]

32 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

Even assuming they weren't legally correct to use this rendition of Sonic, I can't imagine suing Disney being an easy thing to do. 

I doubt they'd even want to. It'd be a shit ton of money and they'd probably lose because, well, Disney.

[Dr. Mechano]

The reception to the old manhog design makes me wonder what sort of impact this might have on animation in general.

Might movie adaptations be more cautious about crazy redesigns that deviate heavily from the source material going forward, using "Ugly Sonic" as a cautionary tale?

[Rabid-Coot]

2 hours ago, Johnny Boy said:

This person is probably reaching here but:

 

The wahed up celebrity on the con circuit has been a joke for a long time. That certain writer just happens to fit it.

[Indigo Rush]

Even 30 years later Sonic is changing the media industry for better and for worse, lol.

[Soniman]

Ugly Sonic being the poster child for hideous soulless focussed tested redesigns made by old businessmen and not actual artists is quite a honor honestly. Sonic wasn’t even the first time this sort of thing happened, far from it, it was just the first time they fixed it and it went over extremely well so now he serves as a warning for future movie producers who wanna pull the same thing on another beloved childrens IP

[Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon]

44 minutes ago, Soniman said:

Ugly Sonic being the poster child for hideous soulless focussed tested redesigns made by old businessmen and not actual artists is quite a honor honestly. Sonic wasn’t even the first time this sort of thing happened, far from it, it was just the first time they fixed it and it went over extremely well so now he serves as a warning for future movie producers who wanna pull the same thing on another beloved childrens IP

And wouldn't it figure. Some STILL don't get the message.

[Gotta Go Rational]

Bit of an aside here - I know the whole "human teeth" thing became a big meme synonymous with the original movie design and all... but doesn't the subsequent redesign of movie Sonic not pretty much have the same teeth? Sonic's teeth in the actual films don't look a whole lot different from what we see with "Ugly Sonic". I guess "photorealistic" teeth is probably a more accurate term for what they resembled beforehand, but either way, I always thought the cinematic Sonic's choppers still seem pretty close to what humans have than anything else.

[CaptainRobo]

I guess this is the reason why Sega and Paramount weren't given credit for the model. I think it's best if they weren't credited for the ugly Sonic. Lol. Who want to get credited for something that is disliked by everybody.