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[SPOILERS AHEAD] 'Sonic the Hedgehog 3' Synopsis Reportedly Revealed in Industry Publication Production Weekly


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I still say the Wachowskis are going to have to figure out where to put all these animals.  They can’t possibly keep them all! :P

Seriously though, not sure why they’re bringing in Big over like, Rouge or Cream.  Big doesn’t really do anything except fish and be purple. 

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I think that this is just a rough draft of what they are doing with the third movie since it's still too early for an official synopsis of the movie, unless they already have a script in hand which would be impossible to do at this point.  I don't know if Big or Metal would even show up in the movie since Shadow is already in the film.  Unless  Big, Amy and Metal are actually showing up in the Knuckles TV series, which has been stated to be the bridge between the second movie and the third movie, I don't see how any of this could work without overstuffing the movie. I do hope that this is just a draft of what they are working with rather than the actual movie, if this turns out to be true.

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Shadow and Metal Sonic being in the same movie makes sense to me, because Shadow is by far the next most popular character to introduce so he HAD to be in the third movie, but you also need to give yourself some establishment of Amy's character and sequel potential. Metal Sonic accomplishes both of those things, allowing Amy to fall in love with Sonic by being a damsel in distress and giving Metal potential for a Sonic Heroes-type movie 4. So doing both at the same time is in a way forced if you want sequel bait, Shadow, and Amy with an established personality all together.

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Basically they are going Team Sonic Racing once again and put Team Rose in the movie, except Cream does not exist, because, I don't know, she sells too little merchandise maybe.

Makes no sense to me anyway... how Amy and Big would help Sonic against Shadow and Metal Sonic? If it was Silver and Blaze maybe. I fear they will do a Sonic Forces like moment where at the end of the movie there's this scene of an horde of badniks and many random characters (not just Big and Amy) appear to make the furry army and keep the badniks busy, while the main heroes do the important things. So a big fanservice moment which has absolutely zero relevance in the main story.

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if this is the case, it would REALLY suck.

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30 minutes ago, Iko said:

Basically they are going Team Sonic Racing once again and put Team Rose in the movie, except Cream does not exist, because, I don't know, she sells too little merchandise maybe.

Makes no sense to me anyway... how Amy and Big would help Sonic against Shadow and Metal Sonic? If it was Silver and Blaze maybe. I fear they will do a Sonic Forces like moment where at the end of the movie there's this scene of an horde of badniks and many random characters (not just Big and Amy) appear to make the furry army and keep the badniks busy, while the main heroes do the important things. So a big fanservice moment which has absolutely zero relevance in the main story.

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basically this:

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if this is the case, it would REALLY suck.

Well to give the blunt answer, yes; Amy is the closest thing the franchise has to a main heroine, and Big is among the largest source of memes in the franchise.

I don't particularly like those reasons, but I can see how a creative could reach that conclusion.

Cream...I honestly cannot think of a niche she feels that isn't already occupied by someone else; kid sidekick? That's Tails. Damsel in distress? You can just use Amy. She doesn't really have big story hooks associated with her like Knuckles or Shadow, nor is she as outlandish as someone like Big even for the ironic appeal. 

So all that's left is...she's polite I guess? I dunno. 

 

I still think having all of these characters is bad, but I am honestly stumped on what Cream could contribute when all of the franchise's major players are already present.

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7 minutes ago, Kuzu said:

Well to give the blunt answer, yes; Amy is the closest thing the franchise has to a main heroine, and Big is among the largest source of memes in the franchise.

I don't particularly like those reasons, but I can see how a creative could reach that conclusion.

Cream...I honestly cannot think of a niche she feels that isn't already occupied by someone else; kid sidekick? That's Tails. Damsel in distress? You can just use Amy. She doesn't really have big story hooks associated with her like Knuckles or Shadow, nor is she as outlandish as someone like Big even for the ironic appeal. 

So all that's left is...she's polite I guess? I dunno. 

I still think having all of these characters is bad, but I am honestly stumped on what Cream could contribute when all of the franchise's major players are already present.

In the context of the movie, Big and Amy aren't much better in that regard. Big can at least make a gag, being a living meme... I don't know, like the Sanic drawing in the first movie... aside of that, I can't see what else he can do in a scenario like the one they're preparing for the third movie. The synopsis clearly says that he, along with Amy, is there to help Sonic, and while Big is theorically strong, he's not the fighter type, and especially being strong is Knuckles' thing, especially in the movies... Big in the movie would just be redundant.

Given that the third movie is going to adapt the story of Sonic Adventure 2, Amy could play a couple of roles such as the prison scene and the talk with Shadow, but really, you don't need to introduce a new character for that. It's the reason for why they replaced her with Chris in that scene of Sonic X... that's one of the few moments when you can give some relevance to the human characters, who otherwise can't do much in a battle between superpowered animals and a planet-destroying cannons set in open space. Introducing Amy just for that couple of scenes would be a bad idea, unless she's already introduced before and the audience already knows her, which is not the case yet in the movie universe (again, unless they introduce her in the Knuckles spin-off). If they adapted the Sonic CD or Adventurre 1 arcs, maybe, but as it is, I see her introduction as overcomplicating things for the sake of it.

I think the same of Rouge, a government spy who works for GUN... that's a role which screams "human" so much, and in a movie that's supposed to be a live action and give equal relevance to the animals and human cast, it's only normal to give Rouge's role to a human character.

Regarding Cream, I'm not saying that they should introduce her in the movies, I'm just annoyed that recently they are excluding her from stuff even when would make sense for her to appear (Team Sonic Racing). If this synopsis is true, it would be the second time in a relatively short time that they used 2/3 of Team Rose together, and excluded just Cream. This is not strictly related to the movies, it's more of a general thing of the franchise.

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37 minutes ago, Iko said:

In the context of the movie, Big and Amy aren't much better in that regard. Big can at least make a gag, being a living meme... I don't know, like the Sanic drawing in the first movie... aside of that, I can't see what else he can do in a scenario like the one they're preparing for the third movie. The synopsis clearly says that he, along with Amy, is there to help Sonic, and while Big is theorically strong, he's not the fighter type, and especially being strong is Knuckles' thing, especially in the movies... Big in the movie would just be redundant.

Given that the third movie is going to adapt the story of Sonic Adventure 2, Amy could play a couple of roles such as the prison scene and the talk with Shadow, but really, you don't need to introduce a new character for that. It's the reason for why they replaced her with Chris in that scene of Sonic X... that's one of the few moments when you can give some relevance to the human characters, who otherwise can't do much in a battle between superpowered animals and a planet-destroying cannons set in open space. Introducing Amy just for that couple of scenes would be a bad idea, unless she's already introduced before and the audience already knows her, which is not the case yet in the movie universe (again, unless they introduce her in the Knuckles spin-off). If they adapted the Sonic CD or Adventurre 1 arcs, maybe, but as it is, I see her introduction as overcomplicating things for the sake of it.

I think the same of Rouge, a government spy who works for GUN... that's a role which screams "human" so much, and in a movie that's supposed to be a live action and give equal relevance to the animals and human cast, it's only normal to give Rouge's role to a human character.

Regarding Cream, I'm not saying that they should introduce her in the movies, I'm just annoyed that recently they are excluding her from stuff even when would make sense for her to appear (Team Sonic Racing). If this synopsis is true, it would be the second time in a relatively short time that they used 2/3 of Team Rose together, and excluded just Cream. This is not strictly related to the movies, it's more of a general thing of the franchise.

These movies never really cared about cohesiveness much given they introduced Tails and Knuckles in the same film and made an immediate beeline to Shadow. They know what sells.

Big is a meme, that's his contribution. You can just do stupid comic relief to appeal to kids.  And Amy gives the generic love interest role.  Not like these films really try to be original with their concepts.

 

I don't want them to do it; but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. 

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I seen lot of folks around various places online flipping their lids thinking that including both Shadow & Metal-Sonic would be going overboard, but I really don't agree! Not only is Shadow not a permanent enemy or final villain... and I can't see that changing here, but he is also somebody who will team up with Sonic to save the world when needed, similar to how Knuckles started out as a enemy. Furthermore they will need Robotnik to do something actually meaningful in the plot besides simply teaming up with Shadow, along with that I feel they would want to make it so that Eggman had learn from his previous mistake and this time make sure to have a backup partner [AKA MetalSonic] in case Shadow betrays him like Knuckles did. Moreover MetalSonic would be a perfect replacement final fight for the Biolizard... as nobody really cares about that thing! which would also add just a touch of Sonic Heroes spice tossed in the mix for the plot of this film without over doing it.

Now as for the rest of the cast... Including Amy seems possible despite not adding much to the plot... but also Big the cat? would be kinda forced, and I find it unlikely as he wouldn't add enough to the plot outside of being a friend to Amy. Plus I find it hard to believe they would skip over Rouge as she would probably me more important to the SA2 themed plot compared to Amy & Big... And before anybody asks, she wouldn't be inappropriate for these family crowd films, considering she is still to this day used in the other sides of this kid friendly series.

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1 hour ago, CaptainRobo said:

Very weird to see a plot synopsis for a movie that won't be released for a while to be revealed this early when the movie is still in early development. 

Also, the writer like this tweet. Lol. It's turned out that the leak is fake.

Not really surprised that this turned out to be fake.  It's too early for a synopsis to be revealed since the movie will not be coming out for another 2 years and I'm pretty sure that there isn't even a script written out for the third movie yet since the second movie just came out.  Also, there's no way that they would cram all of those characters into one movie unless they were planning on splitting the movies into two parts.  Guess we'll wait until next year to see what the plot is really about.

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I'm glad this was a hoax.  Too many things didn't make any sense, and even though the movie is about the Mobian Menagerie, the human cast (Agent Stone, the Wachowskis, Rachel, Wade, etc) are valuable to the movies, and add charm and relatability.  I'd hate for the film series to drown them all out and make it just about the animals vs robots

4 hours ago, Kuzu said:

Well to give the blunt answer, yes; Amy is the closest thing the franchise has to a main heroine, and Big is among the largest source of memes in the franchise.

I don't particularly like those reasons, but I can see how a creative could reach that conclusion.

Cream...I honestly cannot think of a niche she feels that isn't already occupied by someone else; kid sidekick? That's Tails. Damsel in distress? You can just use Amy. She doesn't really have big story hooks associated with her like Knuckles or Shadow, nor is she as outlandish as someone like Big even for the ironic appeal. 

So all that's left is...she's polite I guess? I dunno. 

I still think having all of these characters is bad, but I am honestly stumped on what Cream could contribute when all of the franchise's major players are already present.

Cream adds another female role.  Outside of Amy and possibly Rouge, the Sonic verse doesn't have any female characters with any solid staying power.  Blaze had a spotlight, then Marine, then Sticks, and then they get shelved.  Cream however, comes with her own cast, and if anything, they define Cream better than she defines herself.  Cheese is her sidekick/pet/BFF, Vanilla is her mom, Gemerl is her bodyguard/friend/family butler.  And Amy rounds this out, since she acts as the Sonic to Cream's Tails.  

Granted having said all that, Cream's addition to the movie franchise would be difficult, since she hinges so much on several different characters.  But working her as a solo character could be plausible if they stick her with Amy.

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Cream could have been integrated in the movies if they adapted the story of Sonic Adventure 1, and if the chao played a role in it (since Chaos is a mutated chao). Maybe they could have met her on a planet where the chao live, reached by a portal ring. She could have helped the heroes to find the echidna ruins on the planet and discover their secrets, including Chaos himself.

[warning: some spoilers about the second movie in case some of you didn't watch it]

The planet could have been a paceful place but also the ancient battlefield where the war between echidnas and owls happend, and when the master emerald was stolen from the echidnas by the owls; Chaos might have been what caused the echidnas to lose control over the emerald and allowed it to be stolen. Tikal might be the anciant echidna pacifist who let it to happen because she didn't want the war to continue, though she didn't expect Chaos to go wild and kill many people... we know that in the movie universe the echidnas didn't go extinct when the emerald was stolen, but only after Sonic left his planet for Earth (the Labyrinth ruins are way older).

[end of spoilers]

The ghost of Tikal might have appeared to the heroes to explain the history of the ruins as well.

Now insert a scene where Robotnik finds out about the chao planet and Chaos, and goes there in order to awake the monster and control it. He attacks the paceful people who live there, though at some point he meets Cream who can control the chao and (struggling) defends herself and her village from Robotnik's robots until Sonic and friends arrive... then who knows how the situation might develop from there.

An interesting story for the movie universe with Cream in it, it's not impossible to make, they just need the will to do it. I know that the well enstabilished characters do sell better, but playing the safe route is not always the best route.

Again, I'm not saying they SHOULD do it, just that it's definitely possible, especially since the movie characters don't have to be exact 1:1 copies of the game characters.

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Very happy this is fake. This leak reminds me how difficult of an undertaking this will be. We'll have the humans and the 3 anthro characters; Shadow is guaranteed, and there's also probably another anthro character. There's a lot of characters at play, and assuming they won't adapt SA2 directly (adapting SA2 closely is highly unlikely imo despite its movie-like structure), there's a lot of room for creativity but also for blunder. I think it can be pulled off, but they can't introduce too many things at once, and if they want to make more movies they have to save some things for later. Little joke characters like Big (<3) wouldn't do too much but Metal Sonic would, so why not have him in the Knuckles series or something? Or just other characters in general, Sonic is known for its cast but when making a movie for mass appeal it really doesn't make sense to overstuff this, especially if you're just trying to please the inner fandom. So, I still think they have a good chance, but this is clearly much harder to navigate than the first two ever were.

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