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Haha I see what you did there.

EDIT: Oh, and I have Generations. That line is a raw deal anyway. Just like "watch out, you're gonna crash, ah!"

There's no way to say that line without stringing the s parts together. :/

It's pretty easy to imagine both David and Jason saying "You've got this, Sonic" without much fuss. Take a look at the David during the Final Hazzard boss, or better, Jason during the the buildup to the Sonic vs. Lancelot fight in Black Knight.

I'd hate to see Kirk butcher this.

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I noticed you keep bringing up that same video. Is that the only good example of Jason's voice work as Shadow? It sounds more fair to compare Jason's early work as Shadow to Kirk's instead of using an video of Jason's voicework when he had been doing Shadow's voice for a good 6 or 7 years and he had improved during that time. Jason's voice work as Shadow when he first started was pretty horrible and when I'm talking about horrible, I mean all the way back from Sonic X (and yes, it DOES count cause that's when Jason first started) when Shadow's voice sounds like Sonic but only lower and gruffer.

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Its not that Thornton puts "sssss" in his words. Its more like he extends the ends of his words.

I thought Griffith was awesome as Shadow. But if Thornton can sound more like Humphrey than that's just win. And he can, just check out Gungrave.

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How exactly is that a fair comparison? Jason had taken years to sound like that. Kirk just started late last year.

Wait, so I'm not allowed to compare Kirk with Jason? I have to wait at future point in time?

We're comparing what we've got. Not what we might get in the future.

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It's pretty easy to imagine both David and Jason saying "You've got this, Sonic" without much fuss. Take a look at the David during the Final Hazzard boss, or better, Jason during the the buildup to the Sonic vs. Lancelot fight in Black Knight.

I'd hate to see Kirk butcher this.

I've listened to Thortons voicework as Shadow, and I have no idea where you're getting the sssllllluuurrrsss from. It really isn't that bad.

Not sure how he would "butcher" those lines.

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I can definitely hear the problem people have with Shadow's voice, but don't have a problem with it really. I think he sounds great. He could just stand to rethink where he puts emphasis something. Listening to various clips from Kirk, he messes up Shadow's lines by emphasising the wrong parts, which sometimes results in lines sounding slurred. It's probably because he's trying to sound dark and evil, compared to his Orbot voice which was executed to perfection throughout Colours.

Also there's an 'r' in "chaos control". He's managed to say "chaos contol" in both Free Riders and Generations.

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Wait, so I'm not allowed to compare Kirk with Jason? I have to wait at future point in time?

We're comparing what we've got. Not what we might get in the future.

Experience isn't part of the equation of why Jason is any good in the first place?

Because I could just as easily compare Kirk to Jason's oldest work in the likes of Shadow The Hedgehog when you put it that way. And then I could very easily say Jason is crap at Acting.

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All I can say is that Kirk could've sound better but I'm waiting to hear more dialogue from him in future games. And yes, I know he talked alot in Free Riders and it's their first game and the voice actors needs time to adjust to their new roles.

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Personally I think Kirk is doing alright. he's got the feel right, all he needs to do is work on the execution a bit more and he'll be perfect! considering he's been doing Shadow for a year, he had a pretty good start.

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Now we're complaining about Kirk? Ok I'll bite, his first time is a lot less painful than both Griffith and Humprey, yeah they got better with age, but like so many people see Kirk, they sucked, and to be honest outside of putting emphasis on the wrong lines, he really doesn't sound that bad, and sounds exactly like I would imagine Shadow, hell he sounds like Saix so its not hard to think of a base.

Now tell me that doesn't sound like Shadow.

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Honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with Kirk if he dropped the random emphasis and made his Shadow voice sound exactly like Saix's.

Add the sarcastic, arrogant tone he had in Free Riders, and bam! perfect Shadow.

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Now we're complaining about Kirk? Ok I'll bite, his first time is a lot less painful than both Griffith and Humprey, yeah they got better with age, but like so many people see Kirk, they sucked, and to be honest outside of putting emphasis on the wrong lines, he really doesn't sound that bad, and sounds exactly like I would imagine Shadow, hell he sounds like Siax so its not hard to think of a base.

I don't see how Humphrey sucked. At all. I like Thornton, but Humphrey was still better than him on his first try.

And just to say Thornton has already voiced Shadow in more games than Humphrey.

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You know this is subjective right?

True, but everyone kinda of sucked in SA2. It was a case of the VA's having really awkward lines and not knowing the context.

That "sarcastic, arrogant tone" you mentioned that Kirk does for Shadow is absolutely excellent. Especially considering his and Rouge's role as Team Rocket in Free Riders.

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True, but everyone kinda of sucked in SA2. It was a case of the VA's having really awkward lines and not knowing the context. That "sarcastic, arrogant tone" you mentioned that Kirk does it absolutely excellent. Especially considering his and Rouge's role as Team Rocket in Free Riders.

Exactly, Humphrey just sounded really awkward at times, Thornton sounds awkward too, but its still an overall better performance.

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In my opinion, David Humphrey in my opinion was the best, in my opinion, Shadow voice in my opinion. In my opinion, it's a similar, in my opinion, case to Ryan in my opinion Drummond, who, in my opinion could, in my opinion, be the best (in my opinion) Sonic if, in my opinion, SEGA would have, in my opinion, in my opinion, back in the day.

In my opinion.

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In my opinion, David Humphrey in my opinion was the best, in my opinion, Shadow voice in my opinion. In my opinion, it's a similar, in my opinion, case to Ryan in my opinion Drummond, who, in my opinion could, in my opinion, be the best (in my opinion) Sonic if, in my opinion, SEGA would have, in my opinion, in my opinion, back in the day.

In my opinion.

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