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I'm not sure, though we're talking about games, which is pretty different to how they do their recordings for anime, or so I've heard.

I can't remember the source, but I once read in an interview someone did with Caitlin Glass, (a Funimation va,) that most times when recording for games, even games based off of an anime, that they usually just record the lines without seeing the actual scenes for reference, like they usually get to do when they record for anime. I remember one thing in particular that she said, *paraphrasing here from memory*: "Later when I saw the cutscenes in the final game, I would often go, 'oh man, I would've said that particular line differently if I knew this is what the character was doing..."

I think it's probably been like that for some of the past Sonic series actors as well, and it's probably why voice acting for video games in general is sometimes kinda "off" compared to other media.

That kind of explains why things like Dragon Ball Ultimate Tenkaichi sound way off compared to Kai.

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You know I never really understood why Jason or for that matter most of the 4Kids cast got so much hate, when the games with them had far better acting than Ryan and the others. Sure there are few questionable voices (Rouge comes to mind), but most of them fit their respective characters IMO. I think it all comes down to the fact they've worked on 4Kids dubs. But regardless most of the hate went towards Jason.

I don't hate Roger's Sonic, but I don't like it either. Perhaps the voice still needs to grow on me, but I'd cast Jason as Sonic over Roger any day. Its not that Roger's acting is bad, its great, to me the voice is wrong and just doesn't sound like Sonic but some random anime guy. Whenever I see Sonic I hear Jason's voice in my mind not Roger's.

As for everyone else;

Shadow - Kirk Thornton has me confused with this one. If he would use the voice he gave Brandon in the Gun Grave anime he would sound almost exactly like David Humphrey. Why isn't he doing this? I hate the way he makes Shadow sound like he's trying to hard to be dark and mysterious, I'd rather have Jason back in the role instead of this.

Tails - Kate Higgins is awesome, Tails finally has a voice thats fits him as much the voices he had in SA1&2.

Amy - Hate it, Lisa Ortiz honestly had the best voice fit Amy perfectly. I don't understand why Cindy Robinson is doing a Minnie Mouse impression for her.

Knuckles - Sounds pretty much the same as Dan Green with less gruffness. Would rather go back to the kind of voice Scott Drieir gave him. I like it though.

Rouge - She sounds better than ever! I didn't like the voice Lani Minella originally gave her, and I didn't like the voice 4Kids gave her either. But now, Rouge actually sounds as seductive as the character is suppose to be.

Cream - Sounds good, better than the overly high pitched voice Rebeca Honig turned into (If you go back to the first few episodes of Sonic X she actually sounds good).

Vector - Sounds exactly like his 4Kids voice delivery and all. I much prefer his original Sonic Heroes voice.

Espio - The voice isn't really that different from any of the previous ones, no issues here.

Charmy - Fits the character, but for the record Amy Birnbaum's Charmy never annoyed me.

Eggman - Still awesome, I'm glad he wasn't replaced. Mike makes a much better Eggman than Deem Bristow ever did IMO.

Blaze - I like it, but I liked Bella Hudson's voice too.

Silver - Its good, its not much different though.

Babylon Rogues - Both Wave and Storm sound pretty much like Hudson's and Dan's portrayals though. Jet's new voice is worse than Jason's.

Big - I don't think we've heard Kyle's Big yet. I'm sure it won't be much different the previous actors though.

Regardless of what I think, I hope the current cast is here to stay for good. I want these characters to have official voices like Mickey and the gang.

Edited by Talon TSi

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This is why I was against the 4Kids overreaction and hate mail, calls...etc...SEGA has now punished us with this cast, to all those who contributed, enjoy your Smith! I'll give the guy a second chance just because I really don't wanna switch to another language...after I play SG maybe I'll have a second opinion on this, or it might remain unchanged...we'll see.

They need to punish us more often then! Pretty much everyone's better now so...yeah!

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You know I never really understood why Jason or for that matter most of the 4Kids cast got so much hate, when the games with them had far better acting than Ryan and the others. Sure there are few questionable voices (Rouge comes to mind), but most of them fit their respective characters IMO. I think it all comes down to the fact they've worked on 4Kids dubs. But regardless most of the hate went towards Jason.

Two Reasons:

1. Voices suddenly became serious business in the fandom, and people were bitching because their precious Ryan Drummond was gone.

2. It took them almost five years to finally act with some decency, not that its the actors fault, but still.

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1. Voices suddenly became serious business in the fandom, and people were bitching because their precious Ryan Drummond was gone.

Yeah, Ryan Drummond was a big deal lol. I actually think Ryan had a great voice for Sonic, but I don't think he truly got a chance to shine due to bad scripting and very bad directing. SA2 is probably his best outing, It'd be interesting to see what he could do with the role now under the current scripting and directors.

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Yeah...that was a bit much. Sorry. I probably should have just ended with the note with Smith and White being the only American VAs that make me feel like I'm hearing Sonic.

No problem. We can all jump the gun a bit at times. smile.png

Yeah, but I'm not sure I can put it nicer terms and I'm not sure "without sounding too old" really justifies how I felt about the previous voice. ...though then again, I probably shouldn't have mentioned it at all. >>;

Then I guess we can drop it and you can just sum it all up with a Ren & Stimpy-style, "No sir, I don't like (her performance.)" tongue.png

Well, putting the whole "Dan Green is just doing Dan Green" bias aside I had back in the day (now-a-days I've come to terms with people not having the range of...well...Frank Welker), yeah, he definitely was the better cast members in the 4kids cast and he would sound better with better direction. He has sounded better in stuff like GaoGaiGar (...though over-the-topness is welcomed there XD), and other things. So yeah...definitely.

Yep! What he may lack in range, he makes up for in acting talent. I especially loved his performance in SatBK. He was the only one of the knights to attempt a more "arthurian" take on his usual voice and that made Gawain a lot more fun to watch. He was also great in Rivals 2.

I don't doubt it, but I didn't hear his outings in Rivals 2. And, he sounds like Eric Vale's Trunks...and I don't like Eric Vale's Trunks. The voice anyway. His acting improved in Kai, but...yeah, that gruff he puts on doesn't make much sense.

Ah. I wouldn't know much about Eric Vale's Trunks. When I watch DBZ, I'm usually too busy listening to Android #17. I luvs me some Chuck Huber. (Ku Ku Ku!) tongue.png

Two Reasons: 2. It took them almost five years to finally act with some decency, not that its the actors fault, but still.

Well, not really. I thought that most of them drastically improved and started turning in pretty good performances starting with SatSR. In my opinion, the only games they turned in an undeniably bad performance in were Riders and 06. I feel as if people have over-exaggerated exactly how long it took for most of them to hit their stride.

Edited by Christmascontrol14

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Sega I want you to change the VA for Amy NAO. Lisa Ortiz was perfect and now you replaced her with someone who does an impression of Minnie Mouse which makes her voice really annoying to listen to.

Once Amy gets a huge role in one of the future games, it will just annoy us with her voice and she's like my favorite character...just change the VA please...

Honestly I don't know why Sega replaced all of the VA ('cept Eggman) which some of them don't need changing at all.

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Honestly I don't know why Sega replaced all of the VA ('cept Eggman) which some of them don't need changing at all.

Maybe cause a lot of fans were unhappy and complaining about the 4Kids VA so much ever since they've replaced the Sonic Adventure actors? Now it seems like it's happening all over again.

I hope they hire voices that SEGA is happy with and permanently stick with them. It's annoying that they keep changing voices about every 5 or 6 years just when you're finally getting use to them. They should only replace a voice actor when that actor dies, quits, retires. etc but don't change the whole cast.

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Sega I want you to change the VA for Amy NAO. Lisa Ortiz was perfect and now you replaced her with someone who does an impression of Minnie Mouse which makes her voice really annoying to listen to.

Once Amy gets a huge role in one of the future games, it will just annoy us with her voice and she's like my favorite character...just change the VA please...

Honestly I don't know why Sega replaced all of the VA ('cept Eggman) which some of them don't need changing at all.

Wow, its like Deja vu all over again, I remember a similar statement 5 years ago, except replace Lisa Ortiz with Jennifer Douliard.

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Honestly I don't know why Sega replaced all of the VA ('cept Eggman) which some of them don't need changing at all.

Maybe Sega wanted a fresh start with their voice cast? (I mean everything else in the games were getting a fresh start in a way so why not)

Edited by Holly Jolly Havoc

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Maybe Sega wanted a fresh start with their voice cast? (I mean everything else in the games were getting a fresh start in a way so why not)

If they really wanted a fresh start, then why wasn't Eggman replaced? And I would have agreed with you, if they replaced the VAs before Unleashed, because Unleashed was the game that started it all with the Modern gameplay.

Wow, its like Deja vu all over again, I remember a similar statement 5 years ago, except replace Lisa Ortiz with Jennifer Douliard.

...except Lisa was a good actor for Amy and does not have a squeaky annoying voice like Cindy's? Jennifer's voice for Amy was brilliant, mind you so replacing Jennifer with Lisa seemed like a downgrade, but it's not really "that" bad.

Cindy is a huge HUGE downgrade from Amy's previous voice actors. I thought the whole point of this was to "improve" the character's voices, not make it worse. Unless Cindy really brushes up her acting soon, when Amy comes on screen people will mute the TV. Even Cream's new voice is better than Amy's.

Maybe cause a lot of fans were unhappy and complaining about the 4Kids VA so much ever since they've replaced the Sonic Adventure actors? I hope they hire voices that SEGA is happy with and permanently stick with them. It's kinda annoying that they keep changing voices about every 5 or 6 years just when you're finally getting use to them. They should only replace a voice actor when that actor dies, quits, retires. etc but don't change the whole cast.

If I can remember, most of the complaining was about Sonic's and Tails' voices...and maybe I can throw in Rouge. They should have only replaced those, and those only. But I agree, they should only replace a voice actor when he/she dies, retires or wants to quit. However just for this one time, I want Amy's voice replaced. Because it's really bad.

Edited by Spiced Christmas

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Honestly I don't know why Sega replaced all of the VA ('cept Eggman) which some of them don't need changing at all.

End of contract, they could get a better deal, they wanted more professional actors to go along with the more professional scripts, they were aware of the bitching... any number of reasons really. At any rate we can be sure that they know how fond everyone is of Pollock's Eggman.

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End of contract, they could get a better deal, they wanted more professional actors to go along with the more professional scripts, they were aware of the bitching... any number of reasons really. At any rate we can be sure that they know how fond everyone is of Pollock's Eggman.

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Yes, because it is.

I really don't care if you dislike Colours' dialogue and story, but you can't say its unprofessionally written. The quality of the writing far surpasses, at least in terms of dialogue and character develop, far surpasses anything that came before it, perhaps with the arguable exception of Black Knight (which, mind you, still had some very forced dialogue).

Contrary to what people might think, the Colours writers didn't create the story and write the dialogue. No the story was already written by Sonic Team, because they developed the game. All the Colours writers did, was localise it for English-speaking countries. They did what they were told by SEGA and Sonic Team.

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What's wrong with it in Generations? Yeah, the story needs a lot of work but I don't see what's wrong with the writing. The writing itself is fine.

Edited by ReindeerHunter297

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Yeah especially "I dont know whats going on but I will kick your ass" Shadow, "I dont care time-space is destroyed... Oh Sonic but wait you can be fake!" Silver or "LOOK ITS A HOMING SHOT!!!"

Please... I could write better dialouge for free. And they are taking money for it!

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