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[DabigRG 2,640]

So, given a recent reveal for the IDW comic, here's a old tidbit that might be a bit obscure:

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How many of you knew that Safron was among the Preboot characters that was supposed to get a considerable redesign/rework during what ended being the final awkward days of that continuity?

 

[goku262002 4,542]

So here's an odd thing that cropped up the other day, Rafa Knight the former official renderer of the Sonic Archie Comics is having some issues with SEGA:

If you look at her other tweets and replies it looks like she was burned by SEGA pretty bad, poor girl I really did like her work on the Archie Comics. I was wondering where she disappeared to and suddenly she was replaced by NibocRock.

[PublicEnemy1 1,262]

8 minutes ago, goku262002 said:

So here's an odd thing that cropped up the other day, Rafa Knight the former official renderer of the Sonic Archie Comics is having some issues with SEGA:

If you look at his other tweets and replies it looks like he was burned by SEGA pretty bad, poor guy I really did like his work on the Archie Comics. I was wondering where he disappeared to and suddenly he was replaced by NibocRock.

Hate to break it to you, but Rafa's a she

[goku262002 4,542]

6 minutes ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Hate to break it to you, but Rafa's a she

Noted and fixed.

[DabigRG 2,640]

19 minutes ago, goku262002 said:

So here's an odd thing that cropped up the other day, Rafa Knight the former official renderer of the Sonic Archie Comics is having some issues with SEGA:

If you look at her other tweets and replies it looks like she was burned by SEGA pretty bad, poor girl I really did like her work on the Archie Comics. I was wondering where she disappeared to and suddenly she was replaced by NibocRock.

Huh.

Like, there was a rumor as to why she hasn't doing much, but it overall was apparently a matter of her being cut off without notification.

[goku262002 4,542]

3 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Huh.

Like, there was a rumor as to why she hasn't doing much, but it overall was apparently a matter of her being cut off without notification.

Apparently it's more then a rumor, her tweets pretty much confirm they ditched her for NibocRock. Wonder why though? she seemed like the flexible type and wouldn't give them hassle.

[Operationgamer17 718]

59 minutes ago, goku262002 said:

Apparently it's more then a rumor, her tweets pretty much confirm they ditched her for NibocRock. Wonder why though? she seemed like the flexible type and wouldn't give them hassle.

Well @Ernest the Panda did reply with this in the Status Update. 

“The thing is, from what I understand, they let her go because she exhibited some very unprofessional, not to mention just generally shitty behaviour on her public Discord server.

At least that’s what many people are assuming to be the reason. If there was indeed a different reason, of even no reason at all on Sega’s part, I’m not too bent out of shape over it.

I believe she should still be paid for that IDW cover, but she won’t be working for them again any time soon.”

So maybe there’s your reason?

[Big Panda 8,693]

Of course, we don’t know if that is the reason. For all we know Sega hadn’t even seen it and there’s another reason. But it’s pretty good grounds to do it on.

[DabigRG 2,640]

2 hours ago, Operationgamer17 said:

“The thing is, from what I understand, they let her go because she exhibited some very unprofessional, not to mention just generally shitty behaviour on her public Discord server.

Hm. Like what?

[Operationgamer17 718]

That was a status update from someone else I reposted and I was wondering the same thing, and then I found this via Google. Hoooooo Boy! I don’t even know if I should be posting the link here but here you go, I guess. 

NSFW WARNING, THOUGH.

https://sonicsafetysquad.tumblr.com/post/171114601059/callout-for-rafa-knightrafaknight-rk-on-tumblr

[DabigRG 2,640]

52 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

That was a status update from someone else I reposted and I was wondering the same thing, and then I found this via Google. Hoooooo Boy! I don’t even know if I should be posting the link here but here you go, I guess. 

NSFW WARNING, THOUGH.

https://sonicsafetysquad.tumblr.com/post/171114601059/callout-for-rafa-knightrafaknight-rk-on-tumblr

Sonic Safety Squad, lol.

But, uh, yeah, that topic's sorta what I heard mention of.

 

Not sure how one should feel about the circumstance of that.

 

EDIT: Holy shit, I just read the comments after they finally loaded.

[Operationgamer17 718]

Rafa just deleted all her tweets on her situation.

[SBR2 2,156]

I don't really know what to think about this situation. I just know Rafa was asking people to retweet something in support of her but wouldn't go into it. It felt...sketchy to me TBH.

[DabigRG 2,640]

Me: Did you know Safron was getting a bob cut?

Everyone else: Rafa Knight is sketchy!

[Big Panda 8,693]

I realised I still had these hiding away, so I thought I might as well share them (it’s not like I could get in trouble for it, right?)

Quick backstory: back in 2015, Sonic Super Special Magazine was set to continue with its fourteenth issue, which would have featured content relating to the Worlds Unite crossover, among other things, but it ended up never releasing, and the series as a whole went on what would have been a two year hiatus (it was set to return in early 2017 with a new fourteenth issue, but...yeah).

However, this cancelled version of issue 14, through what I can only assume to be a technical error of some kind, very briefly saw the light of day, digitally, on the Archie Comics App. I was lucky enough to grab the issue before it was hastily removed. While I no longer have access to it today, I did manage to take screenshots of the bonus pages!

There’s nothing all that remarkable here outside the Diana Skelly interview. Regardless, I hope you guys enjoy getting a sneaky peek inside an issue that officially “never was”.

[Dr. Detective Mike 5,580]

Well, I've reached Issue 31 of the older issues of the Archie Book and so far things have been rather interesting. Learning the origins of some of this stuff and how comparatively... uncomplicated a lot of these origins were is fairly neat to see. 

Some of these panels are funny as fuck though.

 

[Big Panda 8,693]

That story was drawn by Ken, right?

Sometimes I forget there was a time where his art was just immensely mediocre and not a full-frontal assault on the eyes.

[Dr. Detective Mike 5,580]

Speaking of Penders, this just so happened to be the issue where Geoffrey thrusts himself at Sally and steals a kiss from her. They kiss again at the end too. Then Sonic's like "She's just trying to make me jealous. WELL TWO CAN PLAY IT THAT GAME!"

And immediately, I'm like "This isn't Sonic". 

Also, it ends with a story about Rotor but that Rotor story has the weirdest cliff-hanger.

He's shown to be able to swim in the arctic ice water for a considerable long distance without coming up for air just fine at the beginning, because he's a walrus I guess. But at the end, a Swat-Bot throws a wooden club at Rotor's head and he falls in the water... and Robotnik's just like "Well struck! Now to continue expositing my plan to these brain-washed walruses." and the Swat-Bot is like "INDEED! THE ONE CALLED ROTOR WILL NEVER TROUBLE YOU AGAIN!"

... He just... fell in the water though? 

That's literally all that happened.

You threw some wood at him and he fell in the water. 

What?

[DabigRG 2,640]

47 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Speaking of Penders, this just so happened to be the issue where Geoffrey thrusts himself at Sally and steals a kiss from her. They kiss again at the end too. Then Sonic's like "She's just trying to make me jealous. WELL TWO CAN PLAY IT THAT GAME!"

And immediately, I'm like "This isn't Sonic". 

Also, it ends with a story about Rotor but that Rotor story has the weirdest cliff-hanger.

He's shown to be able to swim in the arctic ice water for a considerable long distance without coming up for air just fine at the beginning, because he's a walrus I guess. But at the end, a Swat-Bot throws a wooden club at Rotor's head and he falls in the water... and Robotnik's just like "Well struck! Now to continue expositing my plan to these brain-washed walruses." and the Swat-Bot is like "INDEED! THE ONE CALLED ROTOR WILL NEVER TROUBLE YOU AGAIN!"

... He just... fell in the water though? 

That's literally all that happened.

You threw some wood at him and he fell in the water. 

What?

I guess the idea is that Rotor would drown since he's unconscious.

Also, to be a little fair, SatAM Sonic was the type to get jealous. 

Or even hold a grudge, arguably. 

[Silvereyes 284]

I mean, to be fair, Sonic Adventure won't have come out for a few years by the point you are at, so at the time it's not like Sonic anything is out of character for him really. I'm liking your little thoughts about Archie Sonic though, I hope you keep posting them.

[Dr. Detective Mike 5,580]

I know all that already guys. I just really didn't want to re-explain for the 30th time my opinion on SatAM/Archie Sonic so I typed as little as I could about my response to hearing him say that...

Speaking of which, I read Issue 32 and while it did turn out that Rotor was unconscious, that doesn't in anyway alleviate the weirdness of the cliff-hanger in the last issue where all they showed was him falling in the water and Robotnik going "HE'S DEAD! HE'LL NEVER BOTHER ME AGAIN!" 

The Rotor story got even weirder with its conclusion. It's not even a conclusion. Rotor's brainwashed family comes out and attacks them and they end up floating away on a large chunk of ice. Rotor tosses a tracker on the ice so that he can find them again. It looks like a small walkie-talkie thing so it doesn't look like it can stick to anything, as such, I don't know how it's not supposed to just accidently slip off the ice or get kicked in the water.

Then Rotor leaves and says he's gonna work on a way to actually cure Robotnik's hypnosis...and then it ends with a box saying "It's over but if you want us to continue it then send letters to Sonic Grams!"

So basically it's like "We're not concluding this story unless you ask us to" which means if no one asks them to, apparently they're just going to leave Rotor's family adrift in the ocean, hypnotized forever. The idea of that being the case is hilarious.

I guess I should add a disclaimer here to avoid confusion again.

Ahem. 

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Yes, I'm aware that this was probably a common practice in the comics back when they first came out. I'm just highlighting how odd and funny the idea that a story that does something that awful to Rotor's family wouldn't be concluded if people didn't send in letters asking them to. Also, I'm aware that they could totally finish it  without actually receiving any of those letters too.

EDIT: Also, I just noticed that Sonic and Tails have five fingers but Sally, Antione, Rotor, and Bunnie all only have four. 

[SBR2 2,156]

2 hours ago, DabigRG said:

Also, to be a little fair, SatAM Sonic was the type to get jealous. 

Or even hold a grudge, arguably. 

Yeah and that Sonic is also terrible and doesn't feel even remotely like Sonic. 

[PC the Hedgehog 2,966]

Many Mike Gallagher stories had "editor" notes saying "Want to see more of [insert whatever the story was about here]? Write Sonic-Grams!" Most of the time they went unfulfilled. I remember seeing a LOT of fans wanting more Sonic Spinball stories, and we never got even one.

Also helped me appreciate that the editor boxes were at the insistence of the individual writers, not the actual editor.

[SBR2 2,156]

6 hours ago, PC the Hedgehog said:

Many Mike Gallagher stories had "editor" notes saying "Want to see more of [insert whatever the story was about here]? Write Sonic-Grams!" Most of the time they went unfulfilled. I remember seeing a LOT of fans wanting more Sonic Spinball stories, and we never got even one.

Also helped me appreciate that the editor boxes were at the insistence of the individual writers, not the actual editor.

I think it might have stayed that way throughout the whole run. Babylon Rising for example credits Genesis as running from 225-232 IIRC.

[Big Panda 8,693]

Also from Babylon Rising. Totally obvious those are Tracey’s words, not Paul Kaminski’s.