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I think it'd be wiser if the Knuckles clan just...you know...conquered and killed the Tasmanian Devils for power, as the story in Adventure said they'd done to everyone.

Yeah that would make more sense without having to throw "science" into it.

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Yeah, now that the non-anthro "devil dogs" that Ken Penders created have been erased, having the Tasmania devils' genetics being messed with doesn't make much sense.

 

That was an awkward, uncomfortable, and not very Sonic-appropriate plot point anyway, in my opinion.

Okay, I'm not sure I'm getting you right, but we've had creepy bad futures (Sonic CD), echidna genocide (SA1), space colony massacres (SA2), fiery apocalypses (Sonic 06, Rivals 2), forced mutation of cute aliens (Colors), and demonic possession and god-monster bleeding upon being "killed," in a loose sense, by Sonic himself in Unleashed, just to list off the biggest examples done.

 

Not that I'm defending what Penders made, but exactly what counts as "Sonic appropriate" these days? Because messing with genetics is pretty mild compared to everything else that's been done.

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By "Sonic-appropriate", I honestly wasn't talking about the darkness of the plot point at all. I find it annoying when people insist that Sonic be lighthearted without any of the kind of elements you specified, CSS.

 

I probably should've specified that my problem was with just the very idea of de-anthropomorphizing Sonic-style anthro characters. That bothers me because Sonic characters in general are so completely detached from "real animals" (in terms of behavior and appearance, and the fact that non-anthro animals have been appearing since the very first Sonic game and have just been called Sonic's "animal friends" without even bothering with the fact that Sonic is technically an animal himself) that the very concept barely makes sense in the context of Sonic.

 

That wasn't even remotely clear from my post though, so yeah...

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Yeah, now that the non-anthro "devil dogs" that Ken Penders created have been erased, having the Tasmania devils' genetics being messed with doesn't make much sense.

 

That was an awkward, uncomfortable, and not very Sonic-appropriate plot point anyway, in my opinion.

 

I would like to point out that Penders didn't create the plot point of the Devil Dogs being created from genetic experiments by the Echidnas. That was Flynn. During Penders's run, they were referred to as the one species that never evolved (see "End Game," #48).

 

That said, while I get why it's not something people really like, I don't think it's entirely inappropriate for reasons stated. But I know it's not the tone you have an issue with, but how the idea was done. I'm a little mixed on it, but I personally found it intriguing when Thrash came onto the scene, having known/remembered that the Devils introduced much earlier on were simply animals, not anthropes/Mobians.

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Wow. So Ian actually DID want Phoenix Wright in, but Capcom denied it.

This is starting to confirm my fears that Ace Attorney is turning into the new Mega Man in terms of how done Capcom seems to want it to go away. Things are looking bleak for Dai Gyakuten Saiban getting translated.

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Wow. So Ian actually DID want Phoenix Wright in, but Capcom denied it.

This is starting to confirm my fears that Ace Attorney is turning into the new Mega Man in terms of how done Capcom seems to want it to go away. Things are looking bleak for Dai Gyakuten Saiban getting translated.

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Wow. So Ian actually DID want Phoenix Wright in, but Capcom denied it.

This is starting to confirm my fears that Ace Attorney is turning into the new Mega Man in terms of how done Capcom seems to want it to go away. Things are looking bleak for Dai Gyakuten Saiban getting translated.

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Because he's just a lawyer.

Guy's pretty fit, but he's still a normal guy compared to most of the other characters. What's he gonna do? Find out Sigma's secrets with his Magatama?

They can't just make his objections, hold its, and take thats work on the boss without turning it into pure comedy. And as much as I'd like to see Phoenix try and get the bad guys a Guilty verdict, it'd take at least multiple issues.

What works in video game spinoffs won't necessarily work in a comic or animated adaptation.

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I understand that, but Ace Attorney's got little ad recognition as it is; the 5th game had no ad push for its digital only release, PWvsPL at best only had some Youtube ads, Edgeworth's 2nd game only has a presence in the West with an English FAN-patch, and Capcom is silent on DGS getting a wider release of any kind, which is almost never good.

It's just... you already have several 'joke' characters like Arthur taking one hit before his armor breaks to his skivvies, we're probably gonna have Cream and Charmy who last I checked were five...

I could live with Phoenix not being an active battler; he'd probably be better suited for a support role on the Sky Patol, or helping Dr. Light or SOMETHING.

Even if its just a small role, appearing in a big crossover would have helped give his series more recognition, ya know?

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Wow. So Ian actually DID want Phoenix Wright in, but Capcom denied it.

 

Don't you mean "Capcom had an objection to it"? :D

 

 

Guy's pretty fit, but he's still a normal guy compared to most of the other characters. What's he gonna do? Find out Sigma's secrets with his Magatama?

 

Why not? Maybe he could use it to discern his hidden weak spot.

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Yes, although that's more likely to be due to questions with Phantasy Star being generally not a Western franchise for some reason in the last few years.

Damn, that ticks me off, shoot we never even got the SEGA AGES versions of Phantasia Star 1 & 2, in addition to the games past Portable 2 and Zero which I think were the last two games to come out here.

 

Sheesh, they are REALLY hell bent on us Western folks not getting any Phantasy Star love, not even in crossovers.

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