Sonic Generations : General Hacking Thread

[Muscle Man]

You know what? As soon as this game comes out, if it gets a Perfect 10 out of 10, I AM GONNA FUCKING GET ALL THE BAD SONIC GAMES THAT I OWN AND JUST FUCKING BURN THEM.

[Matriculated]

Well I sure as hell couldn't possibly know what these are for. They're definitely menu icons, but what exact purpose they serve is anyone's................................................. anyone's....................... hey........ what..... what is that.... at the very bottom left........ is that......... an Omochao........... Credit Card?

Did they give Omochao........ a Chao Credit Card?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKayLq1d5Bs

Edited June 24, 2011 by Matriculated

[Voyant]

Correction: Correction: Generations is supposed to be celebrating 20 years of the entire game franchise and subsequently all of the traditions and quirks therein. You know what one huge tradition is? Having levels of multiple tropes in the same game. xP

Edited June 24, 2011 by Voyant

[Nepenthe]

No...Generations is supposed to be celebrating 20 years of the entire game franchise. That's it.

And what do you mean GAMEPLAY is irrelevant?

How do we know ocean palace is going to give us some water based platforming. Like aquatic Ruin

How do we know CRISIS CITY isn't going to be smoldering with lava and us jumping across pits trying to avid the flames that come at us? Like Lava Reef

WE DON'T KNOW YET! Hell most the tropes have the potential to be covered in the levels we have. Your imaginative? I mean come one...

I not mad about saying what level you wanted in...I made at you not seeing the potential of level tropes in the levels we have. These levels may be City like, but there settings are nothing alike!

Edited June 24, 2011 by Nepenthe

[Indigo Rush]

I see no broniks in the asset leaks.

I am sad.

[Chris]

While I understand you're all very excited (and/or disappointed) in the leaks (I am too as a result of the classic Green Hill Zone theme remix), please try to keep meme posting and image only posts to a minimum.

[Voyant]

"There's two many recurring level themes such as 'city' and 'tropical'."

Edited June 24, 2011 by Voyant

[Nepenthe]

I see no broniks in the asset leaks.

I am sad.

[Voyant]

Fuck you mean you're sad?! You're not allowed to be sad! This game is not about what you want, you selfish, ungrateful son of a bitch! >=(

..... Both are still clearly city tropes. I don't understand why this needs to be argued, (aside from the fact that you're apparently drinking. Please stop that. =P)

And Ocean Palace and Green Hill aren't tropical levels either? Oookaaaaay then.

And the Surrealism argument is being left dormant for when I need it to explain the actual art style of the games in a snarky way to school classic fans who misuse the term. Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make. X.x

Ocean Palace is to Sonic Heroes as Aquatic Ruin is to Sonic 2. (Even more so in Generations as there most likely will be water based platforming.)

Explain to me why this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=troKlM07Uro

Is the same as this...apart from some occasional green.

And City Escape and Crisis city are like polar opposites from eachother in potential Tropes. They might be like eachother, but its about the execution of level design that makes their trope different. Which has always been relevant in Sonic Games.

Let me brake it down for you to understand where I come from...

Again...sonic 2! FAVORITE game.

Chemical Plant/Metropolis Zone/Oil Ocean that's 3 industrial levels (City Levels)

Emerald Hill Zone/Hill Top Zone/ Mystic Cave Zone <<<(Can be considered the odd ball like Planet Wisp)

Aquatic Ruin (Ocean Place)

Casino Night...(Debatable...we don't know yet)

Sonic 2 has 2 skyzones that were pretty much based on each other (Sanctuary)

You see what I mean? Some of these levels had similar core ideals , but their tropes were Entirely different in each stage. This is what we are most likely getting with Generations...they got it covered.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Voyant

[Nepenthe]

I didn't say Ocean Palace was the same as Green Hill. I said both levels belong to the same "tropical" trope. Same with Crisis City and City Escape. I mean, the both have the word "city" in their name. This is yet another point I can't believe I'm arguing, and it is still not solving the issue of Hydrocity's absence. =/

Edited June 24, 2011 by Nepenthe

[Voyant]

I didn't say Ocean Palace was the same as Green Hill. I said both levels belong to the same "tropical" trope. Same with Crisis City and City Escape. I mean, the both have the word "city" in their name. This is yet another point I can't believe I'm arguing, and it is still not solving the issue of Hydrocity's absence. =/

Edited June 24, 2011 by Voyant

[Agent York]

Here's every regular enemy in the game:

Motobug 2D

Motobug 3D

Buzz Bomber 2D

Buzz Bomber 3D

Chopper 2D

Chopper 3D

Crabmeat 2D

Crabmeat 3D

Spiny 2D

Spiny 3D

Grabber 2D

Grabber 3D

Eggrobo 2D

Eggrobo 3D

Spinner 2D

Spinner 3D (this one is not labelled as 3D actually but can be assumned to be so)

Spanner 2D (what enemy is this again?)

Spanner 3D (is this like the electric spinner or something?)

Cop Speeder 2D (this is the monkey robot in the police car from Sonic Adventure)

Cop Speeder 3D

Cop Speeder Creator (only in 3D and it seems to be something that creates these, or send them out endlessly at least)

Cop Speeder Wall Run (suggested these are Cop Speeders that run along walls)

Path Mover (I have no idea what this is and it looks like it only exists in 3D as well)

Mono Beetle 2D(the Sonic Adventure 2 GUN flying robot with no add-ons)

Mono Beetle 3D

Gun Beetle 2D (Moto Beetle with gun)

Gun Beetle 3D

Gun Hunter 2D (this is those humanoid GUN Sonic Adventure 2 bots that shoot at you)

Gun Hunter 3D

Egg Pawn 2D

Egg Pawn 3D

Lance Pawn 2D (Egg Pawn with Lance)

Lance Pawn 3D

Gun Pawn 2D (Egg Pawn with gun)

Gun Pawn 3D

Iblis Taker 2D(flying fire bat)

Iblis Taker 3D

Iblis Crawler 2D (Which one was the Crawler again?)

Iblis Crawler 3D

Iblis Biter 2D (the lizard fire monsters)

Iblis Biter 3D

Egg Fighter 2D (the purple robots from Unleashed)

Egg Fighter 3D

Egg Fighter Sword 2D (the chainsaw-sword Egg Fighters)

Egg Fighter Sword 3D

Egg Launcher 2D (the missile shooting red robots from Unleashed)

Egg Launcher 3D

Aero-Cannon (only exists in either 2D or 3D) (the gun-looking flying Unleashed enemy that fires a missile)

Aero-Chaser Manager (This one confuses me, it might mean the Interceptor)

Sandworm 2D (Badnik that comes out and spits energy balls from Colors)

Sandworm 3D

Sprinler 2D (Sonic Colors robots that shoot spikes or rings)

Sprinkler 3D

Aero-Chaser (the enemies that chase after you and shoot lasers in Unleashed. Only 3D)

Edited June 24, 2011 by Dusk Golem

[i don't like pie]

Ocean Palace is more like Aquatic Ruin...its a Water/Ruins level.

And like I said again Regular City level compared to apocalyptic flaming...lava riddled level are different tropes. They are nothing alike. There are plenty of stages in the old games that had buildings and skyscrapers in their background, but were completely different trope wise.

Point: Trope wise its fine...just a few buildings being in the background wasn't a problem in the Classics...it shouldn't be now.

[Shockhog]

Looking at that enemy list, the confirmed characters, and the list of levels and bosses....

It seems that the Jazzwares toys WERE to be trusted after all!

but wait doesn't hydrocity have the word city in it???

Edited June 24, 2011 by Shockhog

[Nepenthe]

Ocean Palace is more like Aquatic Ruin...its a Water/Ruins level.

And like I said again Regular City level compared to apocalyptic flaming...lava riddled level are different tropes. They are nothing alike. There are plenty of stages in the old games that had buildings and skyscrapers in their background, but were completely different trope wise.

Point: Trope wise its fine...just a few buildings being in the background wasn't a problem in the Classics...it shouldn't be now.

[Agent York]

You know, thinking about it... Some of these stages and what's memorable about them could make some freaking awesome twists on stages.

Imagine Crisis City with Iblis roaming about and crashing and destroying things and getting in your way through the stage?

Imagine Seaside Hill with giant rolling boulders of evil and riding turtles across the ocean in new extreme ways?

Imagine Sky Sanctuary with a crazed Mecha Sonic trying to stop you at every turn with a barrage of traps and machines like some crazy stalker killer?

Imagine Chemical Plant with raising water levels and tons of harmful chemicals spewing out of pipes in every direction at high speeds?

Imagine Speed Highway being chased by a police force of robot monkeys as they barrage down a building after you, across twisted roads, and taking rides on helicopters?

Just imagine it all.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Dusk Golem

[Voyant]

You know, thinking about it... Some of these stages and what's memorable about them could make some freaking awesome twists on stages.

Imagine Crisis City with Iblis roaming about and crashing and destroying things and getting in your way through the stage?

Imagine Seaside Hill with giant rolling boulders of evil and riding turtles across the ocean in new extreme ways?

Imagine Sky Sanctuary with a crazed Mecha Sonic trying to stop you at every turn with a barrage of traps and machines like some crazy stalker killer?

Imagine Chemical Plant with raising water levels and tons of harmful chemicals spewing out of pipes in every direction at high speeds?

Imagine Speed Highway being chased by a police force of robot monkeys as they barrage down a building after you, across twisted roads, and taking rides on helicopters?

Just imagine it all.

[ArtFenix]

I'm loving everything I saw, but this thing worries me a lot.

PLEASE, SEGA, use ANY (except Sasasr model) other version of the Tornado plane. The Unleashed version sucks SO hard! It's really ugly!

Edited June 24, 2011 by ArtFenix

[Phos]

Are you actually saying Ocean Palace does not exist within a tropical climate? And that Crisis City isn't a city level now just because it's fiery? Really? =|

And the deepest part of the backgrounds in the classics were primarily decorative. Of course they didn't define the tropes of the levels like the actual foreground and midground elements did, which are the grounds I'm using to define the modern levels as well. I mean seriously, I'm confused at you saying "just a few buildings in the background." Crisis City doesn't just have a few buildings in the background. You go in, on, and around the buildings. Same with the tropical climate in Ocean Palace.

Ugh, I can't talk about this tangent anymore. We're derailing, going in circles, aggravating me, and ignoring the critical points of my opposition all at the same time. Besides, since you suggested you should call it a night anyways, I'll gladly help you out with that.

@ i don't like pie: Hydrocity's name is not at all in actual reference to a modern city with skyscrapers. It's clearly a water/ruins level. Good on you for making such a fucking smart alec remark, though.

*sighs* Now I need a drink, and I abhor alcohol.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Phos

[Mega]

That's probably just leftovers from Unleashed, like the medals and the Werehog icon.

[Phos]

That's probably just leftovers from Unleashed, like the medals and the Werehog icon.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Phos

[i don't like pie]

@ i don't like pie: Hydrocity's name is not at all in actual reference to a modern city with skyscrapers. It's clearly a water/ruins level. Good on you for making such a fucking smart alec remark, though.

[Remynaka]

I'm shocked all this info came from a DEMO!!!!!! That JUST came out... like not even 24 hours ago. SERIOUSLY? I love this fanbase, I'm never bored. I just wanna play the game now. Heres hoping for an epic storyline.

[SchemingMinor]

Hmm. I find it strange that nothing of Robotnik was leaked yet - classic models, modern.

Since the build was from the E3 version, I wonder how much new stuff they will put in from now until the release?

So, uh... how about those leaks? Has anyone posted this yet?

Japanese translations from top to bottom, left to right: Shadow, Classic, Modern, Modern Tails, Knuckles, Vector, Amy, Cream, Blaze, and Eggman.

I guess these have something to do with the missions.

[Conando]

Will there be bat nipples? Wait...Rouge the Bat. OH GOD NO.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Hero Of Fate